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From: bonnie <>
Subject: Re: [CCC] census bill
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 15:17:57 -0700
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Lois
Are you saying that Bill S-13 should be voted against. I do not
understand. Please be clear as to what you want us to do.
I will cheerfully go to my MP and state what I want. And he will listen or
hear from me.
Bonnie
At 02:13 PM 4/13/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear Patty and other cheerful listers
>
>Bill S-13 is a huge step backwards for our campaign for the release of the
>historic census. With no legislation, the 1911 and 1916 census have to be
>released unconditionally and on time. This has been established by the
>precedent of the unconditional release of the 1906 census. It seems to
>have been a clever move on the part of our opponents. Beatty et al v The
>Chief Statistician et al was scheduled to be heard by the Federal Court
>on May 6. Our success was all but certain. Releasing the 1906 census
>effectively ended that court case. Promising the conditional release of
>the 1911 census this summer has lulled so many genealogists into
>complacency. Bill S-13, if passed into legislation, will prevent any
>future court cases on this issue. It will also seriously degrade all
>future census as historical records of the population as a whole. Why do
>you think Senator Milne is so upset?
>
>Bill S-13 can still be amended or killed in the House of Commons. Friendly
>MPs need to be briefed. Neutral or unfriendly MPs need to be
>persuaded. You should start with your own MP. Perhaps he/she could use a
>nice package of the submissions to the Senate which you find most lucid or
>your persoanlly annotated copy of Bill S-13.
>
>Lois Sparling
>
>pmcgr wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I am relatively new to this list, but certainly not to the issue. I have
>>written my MP many timeas and even was one of the presenters at the
>>Ottawa Town Hall back in Dec 2001. I have been watching the posts with
>>interest since I joined the list about a month ago.
>>
>>I agree with many who have said we need to keep this in perspective.
>>Without the work of Muriel Davidson, Gordon Watts, Senator Milne, Jeff
>>Paul and many others there would be no 1906 census on line and no chance
>>of even seeing the 1911 in many of our lifetimes. So yes, we didn't get
>>all we wanted (do we ever), but we did make huge strides. And those hard
>>workers need to be congratulated for their efforts. Shooting the
>>messenger has never been very helpful.
>>
>>I do have a question though. Forgive me if it is naiive - this bill which
>>the Senate has passed now has to go to the House, right? Will it be
>>debated there? Can ammendements be added then, or will they just pass
>>what the Senate has approved?
>>
>>In other words, should we be targetting specific MPs who are shown as
>>fence sitters, contacting supporters to see if they will change it from
>>an opt in to an opt out check box or what??
>>
>>If the battle is over, but the war is not, then let's keep up the pressure.
>>Muriel, Lorna, Gordon - any suggestions?
>>
>>Patty McGregor
>>Ottawa
>>
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