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From: Freda <>
Subject: Re: [CCC] Bill S-13 second reading vote
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:28:19 -0700
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To Jeff: thank goodness for the common sense of the Canadian Alliance. This
party believes in what it's members tell it, and we told it we wanted
nothing to do with S-13. This government has already wasted too much time
with so called privacy issues and not nearly enough time checking up on the
overspending bureaucrats who think they can get apologize to get out of
their sins when caught, and go on to do their thing another day. This bill
should die, not a slow death either. It is totally stupid and totally
unecessary, only representing the personal ideology one one or two
bureaucrats who have raised all sorts of fears and what ifs, and have used
their malfunctioning power to create a costly situation.
Freda Stewart
Calgary


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:47 AM
Subject: [CCC] Bill S-13 second reading vote


> Hey there everyone. I just thought that since I was in the house for the
debate on S-13 yesterday I should give you a bit more flavour to what
happened there yesterday.
>
> First of all, they did have a voice vote on the bill. It was clear that
the yeas had it and the majority of people in the house wanted to send the
bill to committee. This included ALL government members. The real
disappointment was the Canadian Alliance. They all voted AGAINST the bill
in principle. When the speaker declared that the government won the vote, 5
members of the Canadian Alliance rose to their feet to force a recorded vote
on the issue, instead of immediately sending the bill to committee. This
prevented Don Boudria from doing what he wanted, which was to get the bill
into committee.
>
> The rules of the House of Commons prevent votes on Friday, by and large,
and so Boudria moved that the vote take place on the first day that he
could, which is the first Monday after the break. He could not do anything
else.
>
> The unfortunate thing is that the House of Commons will prorogue by
Wednesday of next week. There is no question about this fact in my mind.
Everything that is happening here points to that inevitable conclusion.
This means that the bill is dead for now, and that it was the Canadian
Alliance that prevented it from getting into committee where the bill either
would be amended to improve it, or passed without amendment giving us at
least some access to historic census records. It means that the Canadian
Alliance has put all of the power over the census back into the hands of
Ivan Fellegi. The opposition debated out this government bill to the point
where it has failed.
>
> Now as Gordon will tell you, the government has the ability to re-instate
bills that were on the order paper at the time of prorogation. But with a
new Prime Minister taking the reins, who the heck knows what is going to
happen. If we are really lucky John Manley or Sheila Copps will be shuffled
into the Industry portfolio. Both of those ministers know the file inside
out and backwards, and could be persuaded to pursue the issue. It would
also be good if Rock were back at Industry because he would likely pick up
the file where he left off.
>
> That's the view from the ground here folks. If you have any questions,
I'll be happy to answer them.
>
> Jeff Paul
> Policy Advisor
> Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
> Ph: (613) 947-9744
> Cell: (613) 715-2965
>
>
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