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From: "Augusta B. Elmwood" <>
Subject: Re: "Surnames" - When did this start???
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:15:10 -0600
References: <20030306134446.21512.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>


I _believe_ I've seen the French use the terms PRENOM (for the first name/names), NOM
(for the family name) and SURNOM (for what??? - an alias, the name of their estate??) Can
anyone clarify/verify this. I'm not sure what period this is from. I do know that today,
when they say NOM, they mean family name,.... so the term SURNOM must be for something
else or from another era.

Anybody???

Thanx,
Augusta

----- Original Message -----
From: "tony figueroa" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: "Surnames" - When did this start???


:
: Surnames have been used for centuries. They just weren't called surnames. They were used
as an identifier for place of birth, relationships, parentage, et.
: Example is the french use of the word "de".
: deLaMercier, deMolienier, etc. The Russians used "ovich"..Ivan Ivanovich..son of Ivan.
: The english used names to identify occupation such as "Smith' "Baker". Some slaves took
the name of the plantation they belonged as well as the name of the owner. The examples
are as manynas there are names.
: Just when did it become a legal thing? It probably was right from the start. The best
way to find out would be from an anthropologist.
: TSmith3116 <> wrote:Can anyone tell me when did the practice of using
a "surname" became legal.
: This would clear up some issues for me. And if known, what country started it
: initially. From some very "iffy" research it looks like it started in the late
: 1600s.
:
: Thanks
: Ronnie
:
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