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From: "Edward Crawford" <>
Subject: Re: "Surnames" - Christian names in 1817
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:06:32 -0000
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The man whose name I was trying to remember was indeed Stephen Porter!
Edward
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Bousse" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: "Surnames" - Christian names in 1817


> Dorothy,
>
> You're as usual quick to react. From what I indicated in my mail, do you
> think I could find baptismal records for these Campbells from Harriet's
> estate? Where did you find the Wood baptisms? You say that they were
> baptised CoE, are only these baptisms recorded? I know the baptism records
> of Henry CERF's children in the early 1800s were found, could I hope to
find
> those in St. Mary? What are these baptismal records in fact, weren't
slaves
> often baptised by the masters themselves, on their estate?
>
> By the way, I find it hard to believe that Ann Wood, born 2 Feb. 1811,
would
> be your grandmother. Didn't you skip a generation or even two? Or did I
> misread your statement? I know you aren't that old!!!
>
> I hope more will come up, especially on Bishop's Mount. I know some people
> on the List are experts on this. Someone mentioned Stephen Porter, and
> Edward knew someone but could not then remember his name. Anybody can
help?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jan BOUSSE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dorothy Kew" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: "Surnames" - Christian names in 1817
>
>
> > I'd like to comment on Jan's post re Surnames. I htink I've sent this
to
> > the List before but it may bear repeating. While researching my
> > great-grandfather, John Owen Wood, in Port Royal, Jamaica, I came across
> > several baptisms for slaves belonging to him, along with the baptism of
my
> > grandmother, his illegitimate daughter, Ann Wood. Here are the notes I
> made
> > at the time:
> >
> > John Owen Wood, the father of Ann Wood by Mary Holms, appears to have
been
> a
> > slave owner in Port Royal. There are several references in the Port
Royal
> > Copy Register of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, Vol. 1 to baptisms of
> > slaves owned by John Owen Wood. The following references to John Owen
> Wood
> > are found in the baptisms in the Copy Register and range from about 1813
> to
> > 1821:
> >
> > 12 February 1813
> > Ann Wood, daughter of John Owen Wood & Mary Holms of Colour (born)
Feby.
> 2
> > 1811.
> >
> > 18 January 1818
> > Sarah Wood, formerly Sarah black slave of John O. Wood; James Wood,
> > formerly James black slave of John O. Wood; Margaret Wood, formerly
> > Margaret black slave of John O. Wood.
> >
> > 25 January 1818
> > Cassandra Wood, formerly Cassandra black slave of John O. Wood; Jane
> Wood,
> > daughter of Cassandra black slave of John O. Wood; Trusty Wood, formerly
> > Trusty black slave of John O. Wood.
> >
> > 8 February 1818
> > Patience Wood, formerly Patience black slave of John O. Wood; Daniel
> Wood,
> > son of Patience black slave of John O. Wood; Christy Wood, son of
Patience
> > black slave of John O. Wood; Elizh Wood, daughter of Patience black
slave
> of
> > John O. Wood; Thomas Wood, son of Patience black slave of John O.Wood;
> > Henry Wood, son of Patience black slave of John O. Wood; Sarah Wood,
> > daughter of Patience black slave of John O. Wood; Ann Wood, formerly
> Nancy
> > black slave of John O. Wood; Mary Wood, daughter of Ann Wood black
slave
> of
> > John O. Wood.
> >
> > 30 August 1818
> > Sarah Wood, free mustee daughter of John O. Wood and Mary Tracey (born)
> > June 24 1818.
> >
> > 25 March 1821
> > Richard Wood, black slave of John Owen Wood 45 years.
> >
> > 19 August 1821
> > John Wood, negro slave of J. Owen Wood 35 years.
> >
> > I would say that those slaveowners who had their slaves baptized in the
> > Church of England usually gave them their own surname as well. You will
> > note in the baptisms for 8 February 1818 the wholesale baptism of an
> entire
> > family, the slave, Patience, and her children.
> >
> > Dorothy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jan Bousse" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: March 8, 2003 9:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: "Surnames" - Christian names in 1817
> >
> >
> > > As Edward indicated, I spent some time with him last Wednesday and I
> went
> > on
> > > checking out some data in the slave registers at the PRO. That and the
> > fact
> > > that the day before I had been researching ancestors at the FHC in
> > > Exhibition Road, makes that I have a series of questions that I would
> like
> > > to ask my fellow list members. But first only a remark about
"surnames"
> in
> > > Jamaica.
> > >
> > > In T71/33 Jamaica : St. Mary, I was looking for slave owners with the
> name
> > > Campbell. The one that seems to be more interesting is Harriet
CAMPBELL.
> > In
> > > the slave register the name of her property is not mentioned, but in
the
> > > 1821 Almanack she is listed as the owner of Bishop's Mount, St. Mary.
In
> > > 1817 she provides a full and detailed list of her 47 slaves. The first
> > > column gives the original names, the second states "Christian Names".
> The
> > > first original name for instance is Mandy, a Negro, 40 yrs, African,
and
> > his
> > > Christian Name is given as Joseph CAMPBELL.
> > >
> > > Therefore my remark. In 1817 this slave owner gave already names, that
> she
> > > called "Christian names", but that one can as well term as surnames. I
> > have
> > > a query about this as well. Would the fact that this African man,
Mandy,
> > was
> > > at some time given the "Christian name" Joseph Campbell, indicate that
> he
> > > had been baptized? And if so, would any record of such baptism have
> > > survived?
> > >
> > > To give you a bit more information. The following men in the list are
> > young
> > > negroes, termed as Creole, meaning they were born in Jamaica, and the
> > names
> > > of their mothers are given. These women are themselves "African".
> Lucius,
> > 22
> > > yrs, has the Christian name Robert Campbell, Windsor became Duncan
> > Campbell
> > > and Ballantyne was Henry Campbell. Lucius' mother, Princess, did not
> seem
> > to
> > > have received a Christian name, Windsor's mother was Lettice and she
> > became
> > > Gabella Gordon, Ballantyne's mother Prudence has the Christian name
> > > Elizabeth Shaw. I am sure various facts can be deduced from these
names,
> > > ages, etc., although I am not quite sure which ones. Any ideas out
> there?
> > >
> > > And last not least another question. Can anyone determine where the
> > property
> > > Bishop's Mount in St. Mary was located exactly. My reference points
are
> > > Pimento Hill, Friendship and Friendship Mountain, Carlton, Islington.
I
> > > would hope that Bishop's Mount was in that general area.
> > >
> > > Enough for now. I hope you could help me. I am of course quite willing
> to
> > > give you more of the data that I collected during that search.
> > >
> > > Jan BOUSSE
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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