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From: "stuart owens" <>
Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:33:42 +1100
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Hi Trevor,

Mary Richards (nee Morris) married John Owen on July 27th 1887. In 1891
Mary and John were in Ferndale with Mary's youngest (so far as I've found),
John Richards. In 1901 John Richards had upped and left - married and
living in Treherbert at 4 John Street, I believe - but then blind William
had moved in with them at their new abode of 38 Brook Street. Mary is a
conundrum to be sure! Just what happened to her and John isn't known. Yet.
But I'm working on it.

Oh. My job, when I left London two years ago was Traffic Engineer.
Gridlocks a speciality.....

Stuart



----- Original Message -----
From: "May Tan/Trevor Gerard" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family


Hi Stuart , This Mary Morris you are talking about
In the 1841 census you say she was in St Mary St and in 51 she was in
Spurells yard with Blind William .David ,and John , Margaret Morris (widow
of David Morris b 1775) was my ggg grandmother , these are her children not
sure of John, I emailed Pauline with the Birth dates of this family because
thats all I have from research that was passed on to me from a cousin ,
Could it be that your Mary and mine are the one and the same????

Sydneys great except fot the extreme heat occasionally , the polution all
the time , the gridlocked traffic all the time ,the late or non arrival of
trains all the time , but used to be brilliant, the lack of reasonable
carparking, . I am speaking of 64 years of experience. I use to think it was
the best place on earth till I woke up one day and moved to the Gold Coast,
its a bit hotter but its great .
Talk to you soon I hope .
Cheers Trevor

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart owens" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family


> Diane,
>
> My Mary Morris always maintained (in records, that is) she was from St
> Peters and born in 1836 + or - a year. She's not a direct relative to me
> but, in her later years and aged 53, she married my 2g Grandfather.
>
> She's in the 1841 census living in St Mary Street, Carmarthen and then
> Spurrells Yard in the 1851 but then disappears off the planet until 1881
> when she turns up with blind William, David and John at 25 Cambrian Place.
> The linkage of the 'Marys' is pretty much certain as blind William is
> visiting her parents house as a Grandson in the 1871 census of Llanddarog.
>
> Australia is a huge country, Diane, and once out of the big bad cities
> there isn't much but desert scrub and roads. Back in your Mary Ann's day
> there wouldn't be too much of the latter. Life on a station (usually a
> cattle/sheep station) even now is tough and solitary - the drizzly,
> windswept hills and valleys of west Wales is something she'd have missed,
> I suspect. I'm living in Sydney - a city where it can reach the mid
> forties during summer and is currently in a period of drought. I'd never
> thought I'd miss rain!
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diane Williams" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:10 AM
> Subject: RE: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
>
> Stuart
> I have befriended quite a few in Australia looking for my
> gt.gt.grandmother.
> Still quite a few missing links with her but after finding her death
> certificate and inquest papers she led a very sad and poor life. I would
> love to find out why she left Wales leaving her child behind. Ann Morris
> left Wales between 1862 and 1871... I have a pencil written letter to her
> mother dated 1875 from Fassifern Station, Queensland. Whereabouts are you?
> I have friends in Maryborough and Melbourne.
> Diane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stuart owens [mailto:]
> Sent: 26 February 2006 19:08
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
> Many thanks Diane. Monday morning here in Aussie-land and off to work
> now.
> I'll have a close look when I get in this evening.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diane Williams" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
>
> Stuart
> The family who came to Llanelly in 1840 did have a daughter Mary who I
> believe stayed behind in Llandyssul she was baptised on the 7th January
> 1821
> and the daughter of Samuel and Anna of Dysil Castle, (it's a place) in
> Fedwen, Llandyssul - Samuel at that time being a shop keeper.
> I have been unable to find Mary apart from a marriage in September 1843 in
> Cardigan. Hit and miss really, but I could send for it to see if her
> father
> was Samuel. The rest of my Morris family are
> Baptisms
> William 31.1.1819
> Mary Ann 7.1.1821
> Samuel 7.1.1823
> John 23/3/1823 one of the first white settlers in Brigham
> City
> David 6.8.1826
> Judith 10.12.1826
> Seth d.o.b. 5.11.1828
> Ann & Hanna twins 2.3.1833 Ann my gt.gt.grandmother went to Australia
> Charles 14.1.1838
> Morris 26.7.1840 Land owner in Pottawattame, America
> Thomas 26.7.1840
>
> I have found out more about John & Morris in America and Ann in Australia
> than the ones at home
> Missing from research are William, Mary Ann, Samuel, David, Judith and
> Thomas.
>
> William, Samuel and David I believe came to Llanelly but Mary and Judith
> stayed in Llandyssul.
>
> Samuel and Hannah (parents) kept the Duke in Water Street, Llanelly.
> Don't know if any of these slot into your tree.
> Diane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stuart owens [mailto:]
> Sent: 25 February 2006 20:33
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
> Diane,
>
> I've more than a passing interest as well. From all the returns (plus her
> marriage cert) I'm sure my Mary Morris hailed from St Peters. However,
> she's "on hold". Trevor's grabbed her as a Wife for someone from Aberdare
> and my hunt for Mary's son's choice of name for his son (Thomas John)
> isn't
> throwing up much. There's a big black hole from just before 1861 through
> to
>
> past 1871.
>
> I'm going to console myself for a while by checking out a 3xg uncle who
> was
> a master mariner from Newport, Pembrokeshire.
>
> Stuart
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diane Williams" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:56 AM
> Subject: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
>
> Has anyone got family in Llanelly from 1840’s named William Morris, David
> Morris and Samuel Morris … middle name of them all was Newland
>
> Or any family of Morris’ living in Water Street Llanelly from 1840 to
> 1891.
>
> Diane
>
>
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