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From: Norma Rudinsky <>
Subject: Newchurch records alone? St Peters Chapels etc
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:40:49 -0800 (PST)


I believe that the BTs and/or PRs of NEw Church existed and exist
separately from those of St Peter's church itself. At least, they are
separate on the LDS film no. 104504, and absolutely appear to be separate
books. New Church is much later than the now extant records of St Peters,
which begin in 1671.

Norma LEIGH Rudinsky


On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Stephen&Helen wrote:

> Hi Pauline
> I have some references somewhere which say St Peter's Newchurch and
> which someone said was the Chapel of Ease. Do you know anything about it? It
> would presumably share records with St Peter's rather have separate
> registers.
> Thanks
> Helen
> ____________________
> Stephen & Helen Jones
>
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~wyside01
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Date: 02 February 1999 20:57
> Subject: St Peters Chapels etc
>
>
> >Find below the extracts from The Parish Churches and Nonconformist Chapels
> of
> >Wales - Their Records and Where to Find Them.
> >
> >I typed this a few days ago, I think it went onto the list???
> >
> >
> >St Peters in the Parish Church of Carmarthen parish which is the oldest
> Church
> >in Carmarthen - St Davids Church Carmarthen is linked with St Peters, this
> >church took over the burial records from 1841, there is also Llanllwch
> which
> >is a parish church of Carmarthen, this is not an ancient parish but was
> built
> >to take the pressure from St Peters Church.
> >
> >Carmarthen Established Churches and Records are:
> >St Peters
> >baptisms 1671-1923
> >marriages 1671-1916
> >burials 1671-1885
> >
> >St Davids
> >baptisms 1841-1965
> >marriages 1842-1976
> >burials 1841-1952
> >
> >Llanllwch
> >baptisms 1800-1859
> >marriages 1754-1970
> >burials 1796-1943
> >
> >As you can see the 3 above churches were all able to conduct marriages pre
> >1837 - thus they were all parish churches within one parish.
> >
> >Nonconformist Church
> >Baptist (Penuel)
> >records available: births 1801-1837, PRO London RG/4437 (GS828110) IGI
> >
> >Tabernacle
> >Records available: births 1785-1828, 1833-37, burials 1790-1837 PRO London
> >RG4/3942 also RG4/4124 (GS82810) IGI, marriages 1838-68 NLW, burials
> 1841-67
> >NLW. Various record books.
> >
> >Calvanistic Methodists
> >Bethania
> >Records available: unknown.
> >
> >Bethel
> >Records available: See Water St Chapel, Carmarthen
> >
> >Sion (English cause)
> >Records available: unknown
> >
> >Water Street
> >Cause began. 1739, Records available: births,baps 1806-37; burials 1831-36
> >PRO London RG4/3817 (GS828111) IGI
> >
> >Independents
> >Chapel (English)
> >Records available: various books no births, marriages or burials only
> minute
> >books etc.
> >
> >Elim
> >Records available: See Bwlchnewydd, Newchurch parish and Lamas St
> Carmarthen.
> >
> >Lamas Street (Heol Awst)
> >Records available: baps 1792-1837 PRO London RG4/1685 and RG4/1686
> (GS828110)
> >IGI; baptisms 1792-1907 baptism reg book in NLW;
> >various other books of interest.
> >
> >Heol-y-Prior
> >records available: See Lamas St, and St Peters
> >
> >Union Street
> >Records available: See Lamas St before 1846
> >
> >Unitarians
> >Parkyvelvet
> >Records available: some schedules, note books
> >
> >Weslyan Methodists
> >Chapel (English)
> >Records available: book from Mr Wesley for use in 1781. (whereabouts of
> book
> >unknown)
> >births, baps 1808-37 PRO London RG4/4442 (GS828110) IGI
> >
> >Ebenezer
> >Records available: births baps, 1822-37, 1837-58 PRO London RG4/4125 and
> >RG4/3943 (GS828111) IGI
> >
> >If you need any information on any of the above, I have not stated where
> there
> >are no records when the cause began etc.
> >
> >As you can see Carmarthen Town had quite a few Church/Chapels for people to
> >visit, so to find an ancestor here, there are quite a few books to look
> >through. I believe since this book went to press that Carmarthen CRO has
> >copies of all of the records listed above on microfilm.
> >
> >All the above information was extracted from: The Parish Churches and
> >Nonconformist Chapels of Wales - Their records and where to find them.
> Volume
> >One. by Bert J Rawlins
> >
> >REgards
> >Pauline James
> >Carmarthenshire FHS
> >
> >
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