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From: "I Johnson" <>
Subject: David Samuel
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:47:19 +0100


Hi Meryl you are so helpful I wish you could be sitting here with me I am
so green at this internet business I feel like a dunce at school, even
though I wasn't if I send for the marriage certificate I don't really know
where they married, (hope they did)


Thanks again Meryl
----- Original Message -----
From: Meryl Stone <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Subscribe


> Hello Irene
>
> The GRO index covers the whole of England and Wales, so you aren't tied to
> looking for one place. Also County Record Offices don't always have the
> time to look up marriage indexes. I'm not sure how, but I know they're
more
> difficult than birth or death indexes. When I've known there has been a
> marriage, I've sent away to the County Record Office, but the reply has
said
> no marriage was found. I've tried the same marriage again with the GRO
and
> had the certificate back very quickly. If you know the quarter as you do,
> you ask for the quarter and look for both the surnames. You make sure the
> ref nos are the same for both and you know you've found the one you're
> looking for.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Meryl
>
>
> >From: "I Johnson" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Subscribe
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:26:44 +0100
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Meryl,
> >
> >Thanks for all your hard work, I really do appreciate it, but I
think
> >that David William and Richard Samuel moved to Merthyr, but not their
> >parents. I have been to the Library in Llanelli, but because I do not
know
> >their parents names I wasn't sure who was who. I have written too
Llanelli
> >Registrar and also Merthyr for David Samuels marriage but they don't have
> >it, when I looked up the marriage of David Samuel and Anna or Hannah
> >Davis
> >there is a smudge on it so I couldn't see where the marriage took place,
it
> >was December quarter 185l.
> >
> >
> >Thanks ver much Irene
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Meryl Stone <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 9:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: Subscribe
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Irene
> > >
> > > If you know the quarter of the marriage you want, why not look it up
in
> >the
> > > GRO. This will also tell you which area they got married in. Lots of
> > > county record offices have it, so do the Church of Jesus Christ of the
> > > Latter Day Saints (The Mormans). If you can get the GRO number you
can
> >send
> > > to Southport for it. With the number it costs about eight pounds.
> >Without
> > > the number it costs a little bit more. You can order on line and I've
> >found
> > > it takes just over a week for the certificates to come back.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Meryl
> > >
> > > >From: "I Johnson" <>
> > > >Reply-To:
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Re: Subscribe
> > > >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:26:33 +0100
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Pat thanks for your message but the problem I have is even
though
> > > >David
> > > >Samuel and his Brothers Richard and William were born in Llanelly
they
> > > >moved
> > > >to Merthyr and are on the 18841 Merthyr Census, what I wanted to know
> >was
> > > >their parents name I have tried to get David's marriage I now that
he
> > > >married a Hannah or Anna Davis (also from Llanelly but when I found
his
> > > >marriage in the December quarter of 1851 there is a blot on the page,
> >so
> >I
> > > >cannot get a Certificate because I don't know where they married, I
> >have
> > > >writtenn to Llanelli and Merthyr Registras but no luck.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks very much Irene
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Pat Powell <>
> > > >To: <>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:05 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Subscribe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Irene
> > > > > There are quite a lot of Samuels from Llanelly.
> > > > > I had a look in 1851 index and there are a lot of Davids - but
none
> >that
> > > > > correspond to the age of yours. How accurate is the 1820
birthdate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Checking on Richard (assuming he is a brother of David?) there are
> >two
> > > > > but the one that would match a brother also has a brother William
> > > > > This is the entry
> > > > >
> > > > > Parish of ST Elli enumeration district 1F Folio 278 page 37
schedule
> >136
> > > > >
> > > > > Pwll Newydd
> > > > >
> > > > > Sarah Samuel HD W 69 housekeeper GLA Llangyfelach
> > > > > William SO U 27 Collier CMN Llanelly
> > > > > Richard SO U 22 Collier CMN Llanelly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also had a look in 1881 for a possible David
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a David and Ann living in Llanelly but he was born later
> >than
> > > > > 1820
> > > > >
> > > > > Dwelling: Pentrepoeth
> > > > > Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> > > > > Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5375
> >Folio
> > > > > 139 Page 32
> > > > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace
> > > > > David SAMUEL M 53 M Llanelly, Carmarthen,
Wales
> > > > > Rel: Head
> > > > > Occ: Coal Miner
> > > > > Ann SAMUEL M 45 F Llanelly, Carmarthen,
Wales
> > > > > Rel: Wife
> > > > > William SAMUEL U 23 M Llanelly, Carmarthen,
Wales
> > > > > Rel: Son
> > > > > Occ: Doubler In Tin Works (T P W)
> > > > > Daniel BOWEN U 19 M Llanelly, Carmarthen,
Wales
> > > > > Rel: Step Son
> > > > > Occ: Behinder In Tin Works
> > > > > Jane SAMUEL 13 F Llanelly, Carmarthen,
Wales
> > > > > Rel: Daur
> > > > > Occ: Scholar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is one born nearer the date you gave - but if you can find
some
> > > > > more information , maybe I can check some more
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dwelling: Roberts Row
> > > > > Census Place: Aberystruth, Monmouth, Wales
> > > > > Source: FHL Film 1342262 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5241
> >Folio
> > > > > 124 Page 3
> > > > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace
> > > > > William AARON M 37 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Head
> > > > > Occ: Collier
> > > > > Catherine AARON M 35 F Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Wife
> > > > > Joseph AARON U 12 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Son
> > > > > Occ: Scholar
> > > > > Margt. THOMAS W 70 F Panteg, Monmouth, England
> > > > > Rel: Mth In Law
> > > > > Occ: Annuitant
> > > > > James THOMAS U 36 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Br In Law
> > > > > Occ: Collier
> > > > > David SAMUEL M 62 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Boarder
> > > > > Occ: Collier
> > > > > John AARON U 10 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
> > > > > Rel: Son
> > > > > Occ: Scholar
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In message <002201bfdf58$d707ec40$>, I Johnson
> > > > > <> writes
> > > > > >Hi everyone, I am looking for the Samuel family from Llanelli,
> > > >Richard,
> > > >David
> > > > > >and William. David was my great Grandfather and married a
Hannah
> >or
> > > >Anna
> > > > > >Davis also from Llanelli. David Samuel was born in LLanelli in
> >1820
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks, best wishes Irene Johnson
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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