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From: "Rees" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans family Llanon etc.
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 19:30:21 +0100


Thanks Pauline - great help. Tony
----------
>From: "Pauline James" <>
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans family Llanon etc.
>Date: Tue, May 1, 2001, 10:24 pm
>

>Hi Tony
>
>I've received this message, strange why you are not receiving your own -
>they are coming on the list......I did not answer you because I have been
>researching for two days, and another day tomorrow in Carmarthen - and to
>top it all, our server has been down most of the day.......enough of that -
>this is what you wanted.....
>
>1814 6th December Llanon
>David Evans and Jane Davies
>
>speak soon
>Pauline
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rees <>
>To: <>
>Date: 01 May 2001 18:36
>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans family Llanon etc.
>
>
>>Pauline - I am sending stuff out but it doesn't seem to show up on the
>list.
>> Any joy about surname of Jane Evans, wife of David? I'm a bit baffled
-
>>some things seem to get through, some not. Tony
>>----------
>>>From: "Pauline James" <>
>>>To:
>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans family Llanon etc.
>>>Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2001, 10:50 am
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Pauline
>>>
>>>That really is quick! - I am very impressed. Perhaps the researcher
>>didn't look at that one - I gave her several problems, and I think she
just
>>got fed up. No, don't know the name of David Evans's wife, but William
>>Evans's children were called Mary (1854). John (1856), Jane (my
>>gt-grandmother - 1858), Daniel (1860), Margaret (1862), Ann (1864), Gwen
>>(1866), Gwilim (they couldn't spell -1868) and Eliza (1871). I THINK
that
>>William's Wife Elizabeth had a grandmother called Mary (see below), which
>>would make David/Jane the most likely of the marriages you list.
>>>
>>>Elizabeth Hughes was born in Cefn-Coed-y-Cymmer, but her father Daniel
>came
>>from Llanelli; the researcher came up with a mass-baptism of HUGH boys on
>>17th March 1814 at St Elli's Church, and they include GEORGE (18.2.1814),
>>who keeps turning up in family censuses like a - to me very good and not
at
>>all - bad identifying penny. The other boys were Rees (10.8.1794),
>William
>>(29.8.1796), David (2.3.1802), Daniel (the ancestor - 20.6.1803), Edward
>>(6.6.1807), John (7.8.1810), Thomas (7.8.1810) and Thomas (28.9.1812).
>>Parents were David Hugh and Mary.
>>>
>>>So if I could have the marriage date and surname of the Jane married in
>>1814 I'd be most grateful - as also for the Anns as fall-backs.
>Meanwhile,
>>many thanks, indeed. Tony
>>>Hi Tony
>>>
>>>Why couldn't your researcher find a marriage in Llanon for David Evans -
>do
>>>you know the name of his wife??
>>>
>>>There are 5 marriages for a David Evans in LLanon for the following
>years..
>>>
>>>1814 to Jane, 1815 to Sarah, 1819 David Evans of Llandebie and Hannah,
>>1819
>>>to an Ann, 1825 David Evans of Swansea to an Ann
>>>
>>>all took place in Llanon parish church........I have the surnames of the
>>>spouces if you think any of the above may be yours?? There was only the
>>one
>>>of a David Evans of Llanon who married outside the parish of Llanon but
>>that
>>>was in 1835.
>>>
>>>You state that his second wife was from LLanelli, but born in Merthyr if
>>you
>>>could explain maybe I could look here in Llanelli for them....
>>>
>>>speak soon Pauline
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rees <>
>>>To: <>
>>>Date: 28 April 2001 18:35
>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] New member
>>>
>>>
>>>>Pauline - Below is what I've been trying to send. Seems as if I can
>only
>>>>reply, not send messages. Very odd.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>S'mae - new to this list I am looking for three different ancestral
>>>families
>>>>in Carmarthenshire and, despite paying a researcher (which HURT - I have
>>>>Cardi blood as well) I have got nowhere with any of them, and I could do
>>>>with some helpful advice. Sooner than put them all in together in a
>>great
>>>>heap, I'll stick to just one of them for now, since they all present
much
>>>>the same problems:
>>>>
>>>>He is William Evans, b. ca. 1824, Llannon. He married Elizabeth
Hughes,
>>>>whose family came from Llanelli (though she was born in Merthyr), at
>>>>Pontmorlais (Wesleyan, I think) Chapel, Merthyr 12 Nov 1852. He was
>then
>>>>already a widower, and in 1851, a miner, he was living at the house of
>>John
>>>>Davies, Grocer, of Cefn-Coed-y-Cymmer, Brecknockshire - I can't yet find
>>>him
>>>>in 1841 (the Cefn CRs are missing, for a start). He ended up as a
>grocer
>>>>himself, but I think that was because he joined forces with my
>>>>gt-grandfather, his son-in-law, James Henry Evans (isn't our shortage of
>>>>surnames a PEST!) in the Rhondda.
>>>>
>>>>I do not know what to do now. There are so many William Evanses in the
>>St
>>>>C H Index that I don't think I'll be able to find his first marriage, I
>>>>don't know what his first wife was called, so I can't get a death
>>>>certificate for her, and he was almost certainly born a nonconformist,
so
>>I
>>>>can't find a baptism. His father was David Evans, Labourer, but the
>>>>researcher couldn't find a marriage in Llannon for him either. David
>>>Evans
>>>>- now there's a rare name to follow up! I recently found a really
>exotic
>>>>ancestor in Merthyr - name of Mary Smith! No real problems there.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, any (respectable) suggestions very gratefully received. Tony
>>Rees
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>>From: "Pauline James" <>
>>>>>To:
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] New member
>>>>>Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2001, 5:20 pm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>This message came through to me loud and clear......
>>>>>
>>>>>I think there are some hic-cups somewhere,because I am seeing answers
to
>>>>>mail which I have not even read - the answer comes before I've seen the
>>>>>question...so try again
>>>>>
>>>>>bye Pauline
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Rees <>
>>>>>To: <>
>>>>>Date: 28 April 2001 15:56
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] New member
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am Tony Rees and I am trying to send a message for this list. Why
>>>>can't
>>>>>>I? Is it that I have an iMac? I can GET messages ok. T
>>>>>>----------
>>>>>>>From: "Pauline James" <>
>>>>>>>To:
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] New member
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2001, 8:32 am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Jane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for your interests - could you please send them to the members
>>>>>pages
>>>>>>>too, as not all members are subscribers to the listers pages.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I suppose you have found the marriages for parents on your CDRom
which
>>>>>came
>>>>>>>with membership, and other information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have you viewed the Pembrey pages for census returns etc?? Joseph is
>>at
>>>>>>>home in 1841 - do you have this information.....the father is not
>>there,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>he is home again by 1851 - let me know if you have this information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They were known as Hugh and not Hughes in the census returns as
Hughes
>>>>was
>>>>>>>not so popular in the early 1800's...... I have the following baptism
>>>>>which
>>>>>>>may be your Thomas Hugh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15th February 1794 - Thomas Hugh son of William......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For people with Pembrey interests there is now a CDRom of Pembrey
>>>>>available
>>>>>>>to purchase via Carmarthenshire FHS which has records from
>>>>>>1701-1900........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>let me know if you have the census - if not I will give you the
>>>>>information
>>>>>>>from it..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>speak soon and please paste your interests to members pages too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pauline
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: J Rehms <>
>>>>>>>To: <>
>>>>>>>Date: 17 April 2001 22:58
>>>>>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] New member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>I've just joined the Camarthenshire FHS. Here is my list of
>>interests:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HUGHES/HUGH, Joseph
>>>>>>>>born about 1828/1832 in Pembrey
>>>>>>>>father: HUGHES, Thomas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joseph HUGHES married Ann WILLIAMS (christened Dec 1831) at Llanelly
>>24
>>>>>>>Aug,
>>>>>>>>1855
>>>>>>>>father: WILLIAMS, David
>>>>>>>>mother: WILLIAM, Joyce [Choice]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>other WILLIAMS children of David & Joyce
>>>>>>>>William christened Feb 1826
>>>>>>>>Hugh christened Jan 1828
>>>>>>>>Thomas christened Jan 1830
>>>>>>>>Mary christened July 1834
>>>>>>>>John christened April 1836
>>>>>>>>Walter christened July 1838
>>>>>>>>Elizabeth christened March 1841
>>>>>>>>Richard christened June 1843
>>>>>>>>Frances christened Dec 1845
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All WILLIAMS children christened in Pembrey; sometimes listed as
>>>WILLIAM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'd really like to find more information on Joseph HUGHES and his
>>>>>parents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thank you,
>>>>>>>>Jane Rehms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Member #3590
>>>>>>>>J. Rehms
>>>>>>>>Green Bluff, WA USA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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