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From: "Thomas Malyn" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Births of William Evans & Maria Morris 1803 & 1807
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:20:43 +0100
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Hi Pauline & List

Carmarthen Archives looked up the 1851 census which gives William born in
Carmarthen (I didn't know it was St Peter's) and Maria born in Meidrim
(Mydrim in the return). Their ages were recorded as 48 and 44 years in the
census. The children listed match with those born and "registered" at
Penuel Baptist Chapel, Carmarthen including my G-Grandmother Harriet born in
May 1837. David Cooke wrote that this was a birth not a baptism. He
concluded that the Brechfa marriage was the only one which fitted my GG
grandparents. At the marriage William is listed as a Painter. I am
confident that Maria was a Morris prior to marriage since apart from David
Cooke's conclusion one of her grandchildren was christened William Thomas
Morris Malyn (1865 Penarth).

>From later births in Abergwili they must have moved to Abergwili around the
early 1840's and sometime afterwards William becomes an innkeeper in the
village. I don't have the 1861, but the DFHS fiche for BMD fits Maria's
age.

As you say William may have died after 1875, previously you were right on
this for my other GG grandfather Henry Malyn who died shortly after that
date, also in Abergwili.

I don't know whether Maria's family had moved to Brechfa or whether she as
there alone, perhaps working there. David Cooke wrote that the marriage was
witnessed by two persons who were not obvious relatives.

It would be good if you can find the parents of William and Maria and look
forward to any info you may find.

Thanks & regards


Thomas




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Births of William Evans & Maria Morris 1803 & 1807


> Hi Thomas
>
> Do you think this burial is yours?? I looked at the marriage and it states
> that William Evans was from St Peters and Maria Morris Brechfa....
>
> When did these move to Abergwilli do you know? Have you checked the 1861
> census to locate these people.
>
> Maybe William EVans is not in the burial index because he died after
> 1875......there are quite a few possibilities.
>
> Maria Morris seems to be in different places, born in Meidrim, married in
> Brechfa and died in Abergwilly.......do you know why she was in Brechfa at
> the time of her marriage??
>
> I'll see if I can see anything next time I am in the CRO....
>
> Pauline
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Malyn <>
> To: <>
> Date: 08 October 2001 21:22
> Subject: [Cmn-L] Births of William Evans & Maria Morris 1803 & 1807
>
>
> >Hi Pauline and List
> >
> >At last I have got a bit more on the above who were my GG grandparents.
> CRO
> >gave me their marriage and age details. Maria and William married at
> >Brechfa Parish Church in 1827. There are only limited details of the
> couple
> >in the register as usual for the pre 1837 marriages.
> >
> >Whilst William is listed as innkeeper-Abergwili in my G -grandparents
> >marriage at Abergwili Parish Church in 1857 and in the 1851 census, no
name
> >appeared for the inn. I think that I've located Maria burial at the
church
> >in 1863 (Dyfed FHS fiche), the age given matches, but she seems to have
> died
> >in Bristol. I couldn't find a burial at Abergwili PC for William.
> >
> >The 1851 census gives their ages as 44 and 48 respectively. Maria Morris
> >was born about 1806/7 in Meidrim and William was born about 1802/3 in
> >Carmarthen. Does anyone have parish index registers etc which would
> >establish their parents?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Thomas
> >
> >3508
> >
> >
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