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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Williams/Jenkins
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:26:06 -0000


Hi Sylvia

To find out what the maiden name of Elizabeth Williams was you could
purchase a birth certificate for her from Llanelli registry office.....the
youngest child in 1851 was 5 months old, so you have an approximate date of
birth, which I am sure Llanelli could find the birth for you.

I think that the marriage I gave you is the correct one - year is correct -
why were you given the one from Laugharne I cannot understand, when both
were from Llanelli......was it a local researcher you used??

I've looked in the baptisms of Llanelli for a possible one for an Elizabeth
William/s - but lots and lots of children in Llanelli were not baptised in
the parish church.......most of mine are missing as they were
non-conformists.

1812 3rd April Llanelly parish church
Elizabeth William dau Walter and Mary, lab collier, Glyn hamlet

1826 29th Sept Llanelly parish church
Elizabeth Williams dau Thomas & Joyse aged 11 years old, abode Cilwrfa,
occup Mariner.

let me know if this helps

Pauline
-----Original Message-----
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Date: 11 November 2001 03:23
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Williams/Jenkins


>Hi Pauline.
>I have the result of an 1841 cencus (HO 107/1379, book 6, Parish and
Borough
>of Llanelly,Co, Carmarthen.
>
>Almshouse Wern. (folio 49, page 10)
>
>John Williams age 35 (to 39) Laborer, born in county, Carmarthen.
>Elizabeth " 30 (to 34) " "
>"
>Margaret * " 8 " "
> "
>William " 3 " "
> "
>David " 1 " "
> "
>
>1851 Cencus HO 107/2468 Llanelly Carmarthenshire.
>66 Upper Wern.
>John Williams Hd M 47 Labourer born Llanelly Carmarthenshire
>Elizabeth 38 " "
"
>David son 11 " "
"
>Henry " 9 " "
"
>Sarah dau 6 " "
"
>Mary " 2 " "
"
>William 5 months " " "
>
>Using the 1841 cencus elizabeth was born 1811, making 18 when she married,
>first child Margaret was born 1833, so it looks as if John and Elizabeth
were
>married about 4 yrs, or were there others who did not survive, or was
>there another child could have been about 11 and living else where, one
thing
>is for sure they came from Llanelly.
>
>I wonder why they were in the Almshouse, wish i was a fly on the wall in
>those days sure would have answers :-)).
>
>The 1841 cencus was from a Raymond Foster 10 Jan 1990.
>
>Thank you again Sylvia
>
>
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