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From: "Theresa Redmond" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Lloyd/James
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:24:35 +0100
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Thanks Pauline,
I haven't actually tried the registry office since I found the mothers name.
I only had his fathers name. They are extremely helpful and did do a search
with different spellings of Louis(Lewis) for 10 years either side of the
date he should have been born. They also couldn't find his death
certificate, I am now guessing he may have ended up in a Swansea hospital? I
also tried Carmarthen for death cert as well.
I am certain that Lucy James is his mothers mother. I will try next week
with all the info I have since gathered.
I made so many notes from the census I can't read all my own writing! I
need to try and check the 1891 census again for Joseph Lloyd.
I also have to check the 1881 census again for Lucy, Edward and Louis again.
I was pushed for time as Llanellli Library was closing soon, and I may have
missed the entry.
Some of the microfilm at the begining seemed damaged so maybe it wasn't
there. I do live in Llanelli but I can't place a Llanlliedi Lodge, does
anyone know what district it would have been under?

Thanks again
Theresa




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Lloyd/James


> Hi Theresa
>
> You have the names of the children already to Joseph Lloyd and Margaret -
> (?) you could tell them in Llanelli registry office that you believe that
a
> child born to these two people was a Louis/Lewis born c1875.....they would
> be able to assist you with a five year search....did you have the name of
> the parents when you asked last time around. Llanelli registry are very
> good and if they can assist you they will.....give them a list of the
> children you know of already.
>
> >From my own experience one of our family in the 1850's was born
illigitimate
> his name on the birth certificate was David Harvey no fathers name given -
> by the 1861 census and on his untimely death (aged 19) his surname became
> Anthony - I can only assume that the mother informed him that his father's
> surname was Anthony and he took on his name - this child was brought up in
> lodgings for the first few years of his life, then he was taken in by his
> elderly grandmother......his mother never married and remained all her
life
> in service (this was my g.g.grandfathers sister)
>
> That was just to give you an example of what did happen - I was lucky in
> Llanelli registry office, because at the time mine were the only Harvey's
> here......so gleaned a wealth of information from here....
>
> Do you have Joseph Lloyd and his family in the 1891 census?? You did not
> say.....
>
> Do you have the marriage cert for Joseph Lloyd ? Could it be that his
> wife's maiden name is James.....and this is the reason why he is living
with
> them....
>
> You have to remember that lots of families did not live together - lots of
> children were brought up by their grandparents even if they were not
> illigitimate....my mother and her siblings were separated - the older ones
> with the grandparents and the younger ones at home.....perhaps that is the
> way it was done.....in Llanelli anyway??
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
>

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