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From: "Davies" <>
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Translation
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:07:32 -0000
In-Reply-To: <006201c2ca43$354c2f00$2f322940@n7y8h1>

Joe,

You seem to have solved the Gelly-Hir name i.e. It stands for Long Grove.

Gelly Lysged, however, is a bit more difficult. Lysged I assume to be a
mutation of "Llysged", a word I've never come across and neither does it
appear in my dictionary. However, the words "Llysg" (singular) and
"Llysg(i)on" (plural) appear which stand for "short stick(s)" "cudgel(s)"
or"rod(s)". I'll stick my neck out and suggest that Gelly Lysged could mean
a Grove of Short Sticks.

I'm ready to stand corrected !

Eirwyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Gregory [mailto:]
Sent: 01 February 2003 22:43
To:
Subject: [Cmn-L] Translation

Dave, RE
I wonder if I could get some help from the linguists out there, I have
located two farms both on the Lleidi river one in the village of Horeb and
one about a mile or two down river. The first is called Gelly-Hir and the
other Gelly-Lysged. Both are still on modern maps. My question is do the
suffixes -Hir and -Lysged have some meaning?.

MR Collins tells me (Mr. Spurrier is on vacation) that HIR is a prefix
meaning LONG and a
C(G)elli is a GROVE.
LYS (I don't know the GED means) is PALACE or HALL so the names must mean
something like LONG GROVE and PALACE GROVE.
Hope this does until a linguist comes along.
Joe Gregory


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