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From: "Anne Owen Taylor" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Capt. Grismond Phillips
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:45:47 -0000
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Hello Mal

Very interested to hear of your Cwmgwili research. Family lore claims a
connection with this Philipps family but I have yet to find it. Some distant
relations have been christened Grismond.

Francis Jones in his book "Historic Carmarthenshire Homes and their
Families" states under the entry for Friars Park, Carmarthen town that "in
1837 the tenant was William Philipps Esq. a member of the Cwmgwili family".
This William Philipps was an indirect ancestor but I am not confident that
Francis Jones is right about the Cwmgwili connection as he does not
acknowledge that this William Philipps is the same William Phillips
mentioned under the Waun Iago, St Peters and Clyngwynne, Llanboidy entries.

If in your research you have found a connection with West Carmarthenshire
farming families or timber merchants or tanners in Carmarthen town I would
be very interested.

Thank you
Anne
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From: "Mal Davies" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Capt. Grismond Phillips


> Hello Margaret,
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> I have in my possession detailed accounts of the Cwmgwili Estate,
Abergwili and its families which I have acquired over time from historical
research.
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> The 'Cwmgwili', Philipps family had a number of Grismonds who served in
both the navy and army including Sir Grismond Philipps, C.V.O. (Commander
of the royal Victorian Order) who was also County Lord Lieutenant.
> I have noticed though that the family name is spelt with one 'l' and a
double 'p', unlike the double 'll' and one 'p' that you use in your e-mails.
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> Examples of some of the other 'Grismonds' of the family are..........
> 1) Grismond Philipps, 1686-1740
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> 2) Grismond Philipps, 1792-1850
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> 3) Griffith Grismond Philipps, born 28 November 1811, entered the Royal
Navy, served as a Lieutenant in the 'Royal William', the 'Cornwallis'
(1838), 'Seringapatam' (1839), 'Hecate' (1845), 'Acheron' (1847), 'Merlin'
(1855), and on 26 May 1856 was appointed Commander of HM sloop 'Scout', and
later retired in that rank.
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> 4) Grismond Frederic Philipps, baptised at Abergwili on 22 November 1815.
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> I have 75 pages of information of the Cwmgwili House, Abergwili,
Carmarthen (with sketches) and the Philipps family pedigree information
including some charts.
> If you think that this information would be of use to you in your search,
I would be more than happy to e-mail it to your personal e-mail address.
> best regards,
> Mal Davies......... Ammanford, Carms.
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/grumps
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