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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Phillips
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:27:34 +0100
References: <001c01c33b3c$76b5ac40$46fb0050@gwynjones> <003301c33bc2$4df8c8b0$9c00a8c0@cmnfhs2> <000501c33bd3$060c1820$46fb0050@gwynjones>


Hi Gwyn

You mention a David and Mary Phillip/s is this them in 1851

Llandeilo fawr 1851 census enu dist 2H sch 32 pg 8
Cwmdubach
David Phillip head marr 57 labourer born Llandeilo fawr
Mary Phillip wife marr 56 Llandeilo fawr
David Phillip son 15 Llandeilo fawr

I cannot find a possible John Phil/lips born Llandeilo fawr.....

What information is on the marriage certificate for Elizabeth.....where did
they marry? this will show if of the parish church or non-conformists....

Pauline

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gwyn Jones" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Phillips


> Hi Pauline, As far as I can tell - they are not to be found in Glam in
1851
> but I am wondering if the Phillips family came to Glam via Breconshire -
> hence the answer to the question - where are you from? Breconshire -
meaning
> that is where we have just come from rather than the answer to the
question
> where were you born? - Llandeilo - if you see what I mean - of course I
> could be completely off track. A visit to the Archives in Carmarthen -
> brought up this possibility - August 4th 1823 Elizabeth daughter of David
> Phillips and Mary found on Capel Isaac RG3774 but I did not have time to
> look at any further records to confirm or otherwise by looking for John
> and/or William. Confused? I know I am - but then I confuse myself easily
and
> often! Cheers Gwyn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Phillips
>
>
> > HI Gwyn
> >
> > I have indexed that part of Carms ......do you think any of them were in
> > Llandeilo then, or do you have them in Glam already?
> >
> > Pauline
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gwyn Jones" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:08 PM
> > Subject: [Cmn-L] Phillips
> >
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > > I don't know whether anyone can help with another ancestor that may or
> may
> > not have come from the area.
> > > It really depends on which census you look at
> > > 1881 - Elizabeth Phillips (now Rasbridge) born c 1824 gives her place
of
> > birth as Llandeilo - staying with the family is a John Phillips born c
> 1833
> > who also gives Llandeilo Carmarthen as his place of birth.
> > > However - a William Phillips born c 1826 who has a member of the
> Rasbridge
> > clan staying with his family gives his place of birth as Brecknock.
> > > Both sets are at this time in Glamorgan
> > >
> > > The plot thickens because - also in Glamorgan for the 1861 Census -
> > Elizabeth says she was born - Brecon Trecastle.
> > >
> > > On finally finding the marriage certificate - took place at
Llangiwck -
> > Glamorgan I find that Elizabeth has been married before to a Jones is
now
> a
> > widow - her father is given as David Phillips - Deceased - this is in
> 1859.
> > > Sorry to be so long winded. Any help or suggestions please? Cheers
Gwyn
> > >
> > >
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