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From: Pat Powell <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Fw: Llanddeusant
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:20:43 +0100
In-Reply-To: <012001c34402$0678a8a0$0700a8c0@Heffcomm>


Hi Patricia

You haven't given the ref for Margaret Davies in the third quarter of
1850.

From the FreeBMD site you will see that there is a Thomas Thomas
marriied in the third quarter of 1850 registered in Llandovery ref
26/741.

Does this match?

When counting back to find a marriage you need to be absultely sure that
the child you are looking at is the first born.

Many times I have found the first child dies as an infant - so that
could put your calculations out as what seems the first is really the
second - also often a marriage took place close to the first birth or
after it so make sure you cover a wide enough period.

Good luck.

Pat



In message <012001c34402$0678a8a0$>, PATRICIA D
HARRISON <> writes
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "PATRICIA D HARRISON" <>
>To: "Pauline James" <>
>Cc: <>
>Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:48 PM
>Subject: Llanddeusant
>
>
>> Hi Pauline,
>>
>> I received the 1841, 1851 & 1871 census CDs. Thank you for sending them
>so
>> promptly. I have located my Thomas Thomas in Llanddeusant in 1851 & 1871.
>> In 1851 he is living on a farm called Gellygynon Uchaf with his
>> father-in-law Rees Davies and mother-in-law Margaret. In 1871 he is found
>> on the same farm as head of household with 5 children, including the Rees
>> Thomas I was looking for at age 13. He (Thomas) is still there in 1881,
>> though Rees has gone off to London by then. I note from the census that
>> there are 2 farms next to each other: Gellygynon Uchaf and Gellygynon
>Isaf.
>> What is the meaning of "Uchaf" and "Isaf"?
>>
>> I have been trying to locate the marriage of Thomas Thomas and Margaret
>> Davies. I searched the on-line images of the BMD indexes (£5 for 55
>units)
>> and have run into a problem. I located a Margaret Davies being married in
>> Llandovery District in the 3rd Quarter of 1850, however the pages (8 & 9)
>> where Thomas Thomas would appear in the indexes are blank, some problem
>with
>> the scanning I imagine. Is there any way to find out if there is a Thomas
>> Thomas being married in Llandovery in that same quarter? Also, a
>question:
>> Their daughter Margaret Thomas was, according to the 1851 census, 5 months
>> old. To determine her date of birth, would one count back from March 31?
>> If so she would have been born about October 1850. Would it be likely
>that
>> Thomas and Margaret married in April-May-June of that same year?
>>
>> By the way Pauline, when you responded so helpfully to my first post on
>this
>> list I had no idea how involved you were with the FHS. It has become
>> evident from reading the posts to this list just how very helpful and
>> generous you are to everyone.
>>
>> Thank you for your efforts,
>>
>> Patricia
>> Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pauline James" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 4:50 AM
>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Caernarvon census 1841
>>
>>
>> > Just a little update of availability for 1841 census from
>Carmarthenshire
>> FHS.....
>> >
>> > Available now
>> >
>> > Caernarvonshire 1841 - just completed
>> > Breconshire 1841 completed
>> > Pembrokeshire 1841 completed
>> > Carmarthenshire 1841 completed
>> > Monmouthshire 1841 completed
>> >
>> > Next census Denbighshire then Cardiganshire.....
>> >
>> > These are a wonderful source of locating families from the census
>returns
>> on digital images, now enabling you to view in the comfort of your own
>home
>> at your leisure....
>> >
>> > Carms 1841, 1851, 1871, 1891 and 1901 already completed....
>> >
>> > regards Pauline
>> >
>> > ______________________________
>> >
>>
>
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Pat Powell

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