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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Margaret DAVIS/DAVIES, Newcastle Emlyn, CHM 1831 or1841
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:29:45 -0000
References: <021720041630.24184.31bc@att.net>


Hi Wayne

Yes, that is the baptism date, normally taken shortly after birth, although
some children were baptised as a 'family gathering and all done at the same
time' but the one I found was you was on its own....normally if the child is
older some Vicar's take the trouble to state age....

Hope it is the one you are seeking....

Pauline


----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Margaret DAVIS/DAVIES, Newcastle Emlyn, CHM 1831 or1841


> Pauline
>
> Thank you. Would I be correct to assume that the date shone, 1 Sep 1833,
> is Margaret Davies's baptism date which is also probably close to her
> date of birth? That is a very useful piece of information.
> Regards
>
> --
> Wayne
> Chester, VA 23836
>
> > Wayne
> >
> > That was an extract from our baptism index that I have indexed......from
> > Cenarth parish church...as stated....
> >
> > 1833 1st September, Margaret Davies dau Owen and Anne Davies...
> >
> > Pauline
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Margaret DAVIS/DAVIES, Newcastle Emlyn, CHM 1831
or1841
> >
> >
> > > Pauline
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for your assistance. As I understand your message,
you
> > > located the DAVIES family, Owen, Ann and daughter Margaret in a
listing
> > > of some kind dated 1 Sep 1833. There appears to be no one else
> > > residing in the Newcastle Emlyn area that matches the name, age and
> > > surname requirements. If you would, please, tell me what source
> > > your information came from if it was not the Census of 1841? In any
> > > case, I can provide the identity of Margaret DAVIES father, Owen,
> > > to establish the validity of the Marriage Certificate. Thanks again,
> > > --
> > > Wayne
> > > Chester, VA 23836
> > >
> > > > Wayne
> > > >
> > > > I have had a look in Cenarth parish of which Newcastle Emlyn is a
part
> > of,
> > > > although Newcastle Emlyn is also in Cardiganshire, as it is one of
those
> > > > parishes that are in two counties.....
> > > >
> > > > I have looked for a Margaret Davis/ies and this was the only one...
> > > >
> > > > 1833 1st Sept - Margaret Davies dau Owen and Anne
> > > >
> > > > There are only 3 Davis in Cenarth namely, Anna 1818 Anna 1836 and a
Mary
> > in
> > > > 1834 ....
> > > >
> > > > Davies is the more common name in Carmarthenshire.....that is the
> > problem
> > > > with welsh spellings, sometimes they do differ, as John becomes
Jones,
> > Harry
> > > > becomes Harris or Harries, etc.etc....so the marriage you found
could be
> > the
> > > > correct one...
> > > >
> > > > There is no name census for 1831, the first census as we know it was
in
> > > > 1841, there are digital images on CD that you could purchase and
view if
> > you
> > > > so wished, to see if you could find them yourself....
> > > >
> > > > Pauline
> > > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Margaret DAVIS/DAVIES, Newcastle Emlyn, CHM 1831
or1841
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear CHM Listers
> > > > >
> > > > > I am attempting to verify the identity of my gr gr grandmother,
> > Margaret
> > > > DAVIS/
> > > > > DAVIES. According to the Census of 1861, 1871 and 1881 Margaret
was
> > the
> > > > > wife of John GEORGE of Alma Street and Margaret Street in
Aberdare,
> > GLA.
> > > > Her
> > > > > birth place is given as Newcastle, Emlyn, CHN. My great
grandmother's
> > > > mother's maiden name is given as Margaret DAVIS on my gr
grandmother's
> > Death
> > > > Certificate
> > > > > However, when I attempted to obtain the Marriage Certificate for
John
> > and
> > > > > Margaret George, I was informed that the most likely such
certificate
> > > > > was issued for a Margaret DAVIES and John GEORGE in 1858 in
Merthyr
> > > > Tydfil.
> > > > > I am trying to establish the existence of either Margaret DAVIS or
> > > > Margaret
> > > > > DAVIES. I am asking that SKS consult the Census listing for 1831,
CHM
> > when
> > > > > Margaret would have been about one year old or the 1841 Census
when
> > she
> > > > > would have been about ten years old. I am interested in finding
> > whether
> > > > there
> > > > > was a Margaret DAVIS or DAVIES. I am hoping it is one or the
other,
> > > > prefer-
> > > > > ably DAVIES, so I can claim the Marriage Certificate. Any
assistance
> > would
> > > > > be greatly appreciated, thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne E. Phillips
> > > > > Chester, VA 23836
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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