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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] samuel
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:39:48 +0200
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What was Williams occupation in 1871? I have quite a few William Samuel's
of the same age to choose from....

Pauline


----- Original Message -----
From: "gordon myddelton" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] samuel


> On the 1871 and 1881 census for Birkenhead William is older than
> Elizabeth,
> it states William was born in 1826. Also the 1871 census shows that one of
> Elizabeths sons Joseph Burkey was staying with William.It does'nt say
> whether Benjamin was deceased or John's father Robert Burkey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] samuel
>
>
>> Gordon
>>
>> This one has a brother William...
>>
>> enudist 3a Berwick hamlet
>> sch 115 page 39
>> Swab
>> Jane Samuel head wid 55 ag labs widow born Llanelly
>> Ann Samuel dau 26 tinplate worker
>> John Samuel son 19 coal miner
>> Elizabeth Samuel 17 tinworker
>> William Samuel 13 coalminer
>>
>> all born Llanelli
>>
>> Did it state on her marriage cert that her father was deceased?
>>
>> There is a lot written on Old Castle......there is a road in Llanelli
> called
>> Old Castle Road, which is in the area of Old Castle, which was close to
> the
>> Steelworks ....there is mention of
>> Old Castle chemical works
>> Old Castle and Bres colieries
>> Old Castle coal district
>> Old Castle colliery
>> Old Castle Farm
>> Old Castle Iron and tinplate company
>> Old Castle Iron and Tinplate works
>> Old Castle new pit
>> Old Castle Pond
>> Old Castle Road
>>
>> quite a lot to choose from....
>>
>> My own g.g.grandparents at one time lived in Old Castle Cottages I know
> they
>> were there for the 1851 census....
>>
>> I'll see if I can find anything else.....there are quite a few Samuel's
>> in
>> Llanelly....
>>
>> Pauline
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "gordon myddelton" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] samuel
>>
>>
>> > Pauline thank you for response.All I know about Elizabeth is she was
> born
>> > in LLanelly about 1834. I have her marriage certificate for 19th Sept
> 1853
>> > her age was minor and her fathers name was Benjamin Samuel occupation
>> > Coppersmith,one of the witnessess was William Samuel who I think was a
>> > brother.The first son was born 17th May 1856 at Old Castle LLanelly.My
>> > grandfather was her last child born in 1876 in Birkenhead where
> Elizabeth
>> > died in 1896. So in answer to your question I dont know. I have ordered
> a
>> > death certificate for a Benjamin Samuel from March 1838 but wont know
> till
>> > it arrives whether he could be Elizabeth's father.I know most of my
>> > Granddads brothers went to live in Essex and at lest one married a
>> > LLanelly
>> > girl.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Pauline James" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:26 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] samuel
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dear Gordon
>> >>
>> >> I only have 3 Benjamin Samuel's in my 1851 census database, but all
>> >> are
>> >> under the age of 12....
>> >>
>> >> I looked for Elizabeth Samuel, there is not one with a father Benjamin
>> >> Samuel, I have two Elizabeths here whose mother is a widow........one
> is
>> >> Mary Samuel a shoemakers widow with daughter Elizabeth aged 16 born
>> >> Llanelly, the other is Jane Samuel an ag labs widow with Elizabeth
>> >> aged
>> >> 17
>> > a
>> >> tin worker also born Llanelly...
>> >>
>> >> What do you think? Was she in Llanelli in 1851 do you know??
>> >>
>> >> Pauline
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "gordon myddelton" <>
>> >> To: <>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:24 AM
>> >> Subject: [Cmn-L] samuel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > My GGrandmother Elizabeth Samuel was born in LLanely in about
> 1834,her
>> >> > father was Benjamin Samuel a coppersmith.In 1853 Elizabeth married
>> >> > my
>> >> > GGrandfather John Burkey in St. Nicholas Church Liverpool. The first
> of
>> >> > their seven sons was born in 1856 in Old Castle LLanely.Does anyone
>> >> > have
>> >> > any info on the Samuel family or Old Castle
>> >> >
>> >> >
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