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From: "Susan Harvey" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Chapel pre 1837 births and marriages
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:00:53 +0100
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Pauline hi,
Just re read the mail re Chapel registers.

I had no idea that marriage had to take place in the Parish Church pre 1837
.
I realized that registration of births deaths and marriages had to be
carried out in the Church but thought it was an 'administrative function '
not the participation in the religious ceremonies concerned.
Does this mean that
You cannot assume that if a BDM ceremony took place in a Parish Church the
family were of that persuasion?

Also, does it follow that unless lost or damaged or human error has occurred
,the registrations of BDM pre 1837 will be in the OPR for the Parish where
the BDM took place ?

At what date did Chapel or cemetery burials start as opposed to churchyard
burial?

Glad I didn't miss your mail .
Cheers
Sue in LLantrisant
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Chapel pre 1837 births and marriages


> Diana.....it depends which denomination they belonged too.....the
> Calvinistic Methodists between 1813-1837 have wonderful registers, they
> give much more information than the parish church even......but yours were
> baptists, and I find they are much harder to locate, as they did not
> baptise their children when born/young but I have found in some baptist
> chapels they did register them though.....but, Adulam registers for the
> main part do not give parentage just the name of the one being
> baptised...I have registers for Ty Newydd which was a branch of Adulam...
>
> Yes, most of the chapel registers are in welsh, but if you find any entry
> there are so many welsh speakers on these lists that someone would be able
> to translate for you.
>
> Re marriages pre 1837, everyone had to marry in the parish church
> regardless of what chapel they belonged too.....the only ones exempt were
> Quakers...
>
> Pauline
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "diana murray" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:35 AM
> Subject: [Cmn-L] Chapel pre 1837 births and marriages
>
>
>> Hello Pauline - I put this out on the general email in case anyone else
>> has the same problem!!
>>
>> Is there any way that one can find the birth or marriage pre 1837 of
>> ancestors who were Chapel rather than Church.? In my case of course it
>> is the Adulam registers which are in Welsh as I assume is the same for
>> all other chapel registars.
>>
>> regards
>> Diana
>>
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