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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:44:07 +0200
References: <002701c65ca5$5f953110$d7865c54@peter>


Hi Peter

I cannot establish exactly where Field/Glanmor House stood........CFHS have
scanned Old Llanelly by John Innes onto a CD and there is a sketch of the
Field House.......

This is written in Carmarthenshire Historical Homes

Glanmor or Field House, so called in 1875, demolished c1902 - skeetch of
house in 'Old Llanelly by John Innes'

Also this
WESTFA Felinfoel Llanelly
House of the Neville family. Charles Neville a business man who came from
Birmingham, was the first of his family to settle at Vauxhall, Llanelli,
where he was engaged with the Copperworks in 1804. He and his wife were
deeply religious and strong supporters of the Wesleyan denomination, and
members of the Wesleyan chapel in Llanell, where he often conducted
services. His son Richard Janion Neville was High sheriff in 1836. In 1848
commenced the building of the house of Westfa for the Neville's. The next
member of the family to occupy it was Charles William Neville described as
owner of 517 acres in 1873. Westfa is a commodious house, of three floors,
and 29 rooms in all now converted into flats......

**
If it was demolished in 1902ish.......St Peters church was conducting
christenings etc from 1895........so it cannot be built on that exact
spot....

Yes, I know that part of Llanelli well........there is also a Neville Street
off Paddock Street.......

Let me know exactly what info you have and who you are looking for....

Pauline


----- Original Message -----
From: "peter lister" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
Carmarthenshire


> Dear Pauline,
>
> We thought that we would look at the IGI batches for Kidwelly and this
> marriage for a BROWN came up - but no links but may well be an
> interesting long-shot target at some point!
>
> ANNA BROWN
> Marriages:
> Spouse: JOHN LLOYD
> Marriage: 20 NOV 1670 Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
>
> Hannah Maria HENSHAW was the servant in the home of John and Sophia
> EDWARDS (1901 census - 19 Ralph Street, Llanelly) and it was always said
> that she was related in some way - but this is just not coming through -
> but thanks to you - and ,as you say, their names! - the information is
> coming through very quickly.
>
> Sophia (nee Evans) EDWARDS' family were originally from Pembrokeshire so
> maybe the link is through Marian HENSHAW (b. Saundersfoot).
>
> Thank you very, very much - incidentally - Hannah HENSAW's parent's
> house on Paddock Street is possibly the area where Field/Glanmor House
> originally stood.
>
> If you know this area of Llanelly you will see Glanmor Terrace, Paddock
> Street and other streets with names associated with the house and field.
> I believe that St. Peter's Church, Llanelli was built roughly where
> Field/Glanmor House once stood.
>
> If you know any better or any more please do let me know!
>
> Very best wishes, Peter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pauline James [mailto:]
> Sent: 10 April 2006 14:26
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
> Carmarthenshire
>
> Hi Peter
>
> are we on a roll??
>
> marriage Llanelly St Elly parish church
> Robert Henshaw and Jane Brown
>
> nicer names to search than Thomas, Davies, Williams and Jones.....
>
> Pauline
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter lister" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
> Carmarthenshire
>
>
>> Hello Pauline,
>>
>> Just had a look at the IGI for Robert and Jane HENSHAW children -
> these
>> came up. So it seems possible that these two could be brothers (sons
> of
>> Robert HENSHAW the elder b circa 1788) one the grand-father and one
> the
>> great-uncle for Hannah Maria HENSHAW.
>>
>> We did not have her father's - the younger Robert HENSHAW - father
> prior
>> to this - so will work from this very helpful information.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your time and expertise!
>>
>> All the best, Peter
>>
>>
>> 1. GEORGE HENSHAW - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Male Christening: 23 NOV 1823 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
>>
>> 2. MARY HENSHAW - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Christening: 21 NOV 1813 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
>>
>> 3. MARY HENSHAW - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Christening: 26 AUG 1821 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
>>
>> 4. WM. HENSHAW - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Male Christening: 16 JUL 1815 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pauline James [mailto:]
>> Sent: 10 April 2006 13:15
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
>> Carmarthenshire
>>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> These are the entries from 1851 census Llanelly Henshaw......perhaps
>> William
>> is the son of Robert? Who was the father of the Robert Henshaw you
> have
>>
>> 1851 census Llanelly HO107/2468 enu 2,1f sch 92 page 26
>> Cylwrva vach
>> William Henshaw head marr 34 Smith born Llanelly
>> Marian Henshaw wife marr 31 born Saundersfoot Pembs
>> Thomas son 12 at foundry
>> Mary dau 9
>> Robert son 8
>> Jane dau 5
>> Maria dau 3
>> Catherine dau 9 mth
>>
>> all children born Llanelly
>>
>> Upper Water Street Llanelly enu dist 1E sch 81 pg 22
>> Robert Henshaw head 63 shoemaker born Llanelly
>> Jane Henshaw wife marr 60 born Kidwelly
>> George Henshaw son un 27 Smith born Llanelly
>> Jane Henshaw dau 23 un born Llanelly
>>
>> these were the only two Henshaw families in Llanelly .....born
> Llanelly
>>
>> No Glanmor House mentioned in 1851.....only Glanmor cottages.......
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "peter lister" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:44 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
>> Carmarthenshire
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Pauline,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much - Elsie kindly found her father Robert HENSHAW in
>>> 1891, he was born in 1856 so would not have been on 1851. But by
>> first
>>> name I wonder if the Robert HENSHAW that you mention below was
> perhaps
>>> his father or Grandfather?
>>>
>>> Looking again at the dates, maybe this Robert below is Hannah Maria's
>>> GGgrandfather.
>>>
>>> William below could be a great grandfather.
>>>
>>> Yes, it would be interesting to see these in case they do
>>> cross-reference.
>>>
>>> May I just ask, were you able to find any of the main residents of
>>> Glanmor House where William THOMAS was in service?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for you time and help.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pauline James [mailto:]
>>> Sent: 10 April 2006 11:48
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW -
> Llanelly,
>>> Carmarthenshire
>>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> There are two Henshaw families residing in Llanelli 1851 census.....
>>>
>>> One is Robert Henshaw aged 60 shoemaker and family living in Upper
>> Water
>>>
>>> Street
>>>
>>> the other is William Henshaw aged 34 smith and family living in
>> Cilwrva
>>> fach
>>>
>>> do you want these entries - do you think they are belonging.
>>>
>>> I remember a Henshaw's in Burry Port....... they ran a grocer/tuck
>> shop
>>>
>>> Pauline
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "peter lister" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:01 PM
>>> Subject: [Cmn-L] 1891 look-up for Hannah Maria HENSHAW - Llanelly,
>>> Carmarthenshire
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please help out with an 1891 look-up for:
>>>>
>>>> Hannah Maria HENSHAW
>>>>
>>>> We have her in the 1901 census as a servant in Llanelly where she is
>>>> named Hannah Manna HENSHAW.
>>>>
>>>> On this entry she is described as 16 years of age and born in
>> Llanelly
>>> -
>>>> so her year of birth was roughly 1885.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and in anticipation.
>>>>
>>>> All the best, Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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