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From: "Pauline James" <>
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] John JOHN Whitland
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:27:38 +0100
References: <BAY132-DAV14BFAFE81F7BA6526B09C5C3880@phx.gbl>


sorry Lynn omitted that, think he was a coal miner....

Pauline


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Bohen" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] John JOHN Whitland


> Thanks Pauline,
>
> Might be him. What is occupation? Not that it probably makes much
> difference in identifying him unless by chance he is a school teacher!
>
> Lynn
>
> _____________________________________________
>
> Hi Lynn
>
> Could this be John in 1891 living in Aberdare Glam
>
> Aberdare, Fforchaman
> Thomas Davies head marr 64 lab colliery born Pontllanglydwen Pembs
> Mary Thomas wife 64 b. Pontllanglydwen Pembs
> Elizabeth John dau 21 born Aberdare
> John John son/law 26 born Whitland Carms
> William Williams boarder 50 born Carms unknown
>
> Whitland is in Llanboidy..........
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:54 PM
> To:
> Subject: CARMARTHENSHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 59
>
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. JOhn family Llanboidy (Pauline James)
> 2. Re: 1861 Census Llanboidy JOHN & HARRIES (Pauline James)
> 3. Re: JOhn family Llanboidy (Pauline James)
> 4. Re: Ancestry being indexed in India (Susan Owen)
> 5. Re: Ancestry being indexed in India (Pauline James)
> 6. Re: Ancestry being indexed in India (Joe Orfant)
> 7. Re: Ancestry being indexed in India (Susan Owen)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:43:26 +0100
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> Subject: [CMN-L] JOhn family Llanboidy
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <009801c7544d$75ab15f0$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Lynn
>
> I looked in 1871 for you, but can see I did not give the information.
> Here they are
>
> 1871 Llanboidy
> Lodge?
> William John head marr32 ag lab born Llanboidy
> Hester wife 31
> John son 7
> Anne dau 5
> Jonah son 1
> Daniel son 1
>
> have you located birth certs for these, I am sure that Pat has given you
> info on these where to locate the birth and marriage certs, and that
> William probably did marry twice.....
>
> Have you tried to find the twins in 1891.....
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:57:35 +0100
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] 1861 Census Llanboidy JOHN & HARRIES
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <009b01c7544f$70324240$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Lynn
>
> Could this be John in 1891 living in Aberdare Glam
>
> Aberdare, Fforchaman
> Thomas Davies head marr 64 lab colliery born Pontllanglydwen Pembs
> Mary Thomas wife 64 b. Pontllanglydwen Pembs
> Elizabeth John dau 21 born Aberdare
> John John son/law 26 born Whitland Carms
> William Williams boarder 50 born Carms unknown
>
> Whitland is in Llanboidy..........
>
> Pauline
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Bohen" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:31 AM
> Subject: [CMN-L] 1861 Census Llanboidy JOHN & HARRIES
>
>
>>
>> Hi Pauline & List
>>
>> I have been looking for John JOHN & his twin brothers Jonah & Daniel JOHN
>> since they appeared on the 1881 census in Llanboidy but there is no sign
>> of any of them as having married, died, emigrated to US or Canada and
>> they
>> are nowhere to be found in the UK in 1901. Does anyone have any other
>> ideas where I can look for them?
>>
>> Interestingly enough though Steve I did find your Jonah JOHN age 59 in
>> 1901 living in Laugharne on Gosport next door to a Daniel JOHN who is
>> also
>> 59. At first thought there might be a mistake in the ages but Jonah is
>> living with a 33 year old son John so couldn't possibly be mine!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lynn Bohen
>> Mendocino, USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:58:39 +0100
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] JOhn family Llanboidy
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <00a601c7544f$961051f0$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> sorry meant to say that they were all born in Llanboidy, but as in
> previous
> email were not baptised in the parish church there
>
> Pauline
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:43 PM
> Subject: [CMN-L] JOhn family Llanboidy
>
>
>> Hi Lynn
>>
>> I looked in 1871 for you, but can see I did not give the information.
>> Here they are
>>
>> 1871 Llanboidy
>> Lodge?
>> William John head marr32 ag lab born Llanboidy
>> Hester wife 31
>> John son 7
>> Anne dau 5
>> Jonah son 1
>> Daniel son 1
>>
>> have you located birth certs for these, I am sure that Pat has given you
>> info on these where to locate the birth and marriage certs, and that
>> William probably did marry twice.....
>>
>> Have you tried to find the twins in 1891.....
>>
>> Pauline
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:23:13 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
> From: "Susan Owen" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Getting a bit tired of this dialog regarding Ancestry. I live in the
> States
> As I understand, Ancestry uses computer technology to do the initial
> work
> then individuals go through it. I'm not sure that is done in India. But
> I
> am sure that if you email Ancestry with a correction, it will get
> corrected.
> There are many errors in transcription to be sure, but compared to
> searching for hours on films to find one's ancestor, it is a walk in the
> park. Without Ancestry, most of us would still be in the dark ages
> regarding research. They are continually adding more information and the
> information is so vast it will take years for it all to be completely
> correct.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From:
> Date: 2/18/2007 10:47:04 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>
> Agreed - but I find "Lanarthney - Ireland" more than once!
>
> Gareth
>
> ---- Original message ----
>>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:00:58 EST
>>From:
>>Subject: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>>To:
>>
>>Dear John Morris
>>Very far from criticising the people in India who indexed
> for Ancestry, I
>>was congratulating them ! It is very hard to index
> something in a foreign
>>language even if you have a good working knowledge of that
> second language. And
>>maybe I'm wrong, but I would imaging that the number of
> people in India who
>>worked on this project who also speak and read Welsh
> fluently are not very
>>numerous. So it was a huge achievement. Just think of
> all those Welsh
>>names.... Better still imagine indexing a census for
> India with all their wonderful
>>long names!
>>
>>Also if you want to be pedantic, the fact that it
> was 'indexed in India'
>>does not in fact mean that it was all done by members
> of 'The Indian nation'
>>just by people who happen to work there -:)
>>
>>I know we need to be sensitive not to hurt other people,
> but please be
>>assured that I'm not a racial bigot
>>Yours in peace and harmony Bethan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>CFHS online indexes the must for people with
> Carmarthenshire interests membership now being taken ......
>>http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>>http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
>>
>>Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List.........
>>
> &gt;
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:34:12 +0100
> From: "Pauline James" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <003f01c7546d$b2dced20$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Is it Susan as you did not sign your email
>
> I do not think that over half a dozen messages, including yours re
> ancestry are excessive or tiresome.......people have a right to their
> opinions, that is what these lists are for, and it is to do with
> genealogy...
>
> Yes, ancestry has opened up a whole new ball game, and has and does help
> many many people......as do Societies and individuals who index on a
> regular
> basis to help all individuals........
>
> Not heard about emailing ancestry with the corrections.........must be
> new?
>
> Pauline James
> List Admin Carmarthenshire
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Owen" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>
>
>> Getting a bit tired of this dialog regarding Ancestry. I live in the
>> States
>> As I understand, Ancestry uses computer technology to do the initial
>> work
>> then individuals go through it. I'm not sure that is done in India. But
>> I
>> am sure that if you email Ancestry with a correction, it will get
>> corrected.
>> There are many errors in transcription to be sure, but compared to
>> searching for hours on films to find one's ancestor, it is a walk in the
>> park. Without Ancestry, most of us would still be in the dark ages
>> regarding research. They are continually adding more information and the
>> information is so vast it will take years for it all to be completely
>> correct.
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From:
>> Date: 2/18/2007 10:47:04 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>>
>> Agreed - but I find "Lanarthney - Ireland" more than once!
>>
>> Gareth
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:00:58 EST
>>>From:
>>>Subject: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>>>To:
>>>
>>>Dear John Morris
>>>Very far from criticising the people in India who indexed
>> for Ancestry, I
>>>was congratulating them ! It is very hard to index
>> something in a foreign
>>>language even if you have a good working knowledge of that
>> second language. And
>>>maybe I'm wrong, but I would imaging that the number of
>> people in India who
>>>worked on this project who also speak and read Welsh
>> fluently are not very
>>>numerous. So it was a huge achievement. Just think of
>> all those Welsh
>>>names.... Better still imagine indexing a census for
>> India with all their wonderful
>>>long names!
>>>
>>>Also if you want to be pedantic, the fact that it
>> was 'indexed in India'
>>>does not in fact mean that it was all done by members
>> of 'The Indian nation'
>>>just by people who happen to work there -:)
>>>
>>>I know we need to be sensitive not to hurt other people,
>> but please be
>>>assured that I'm not a racial bigot
>>>Yours in peace and harmony Bethan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>CFHS online indexes the must for people with
>> Carmarthenshire interests membership now being taken ......
>>>http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>>>http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
>>>
>>>Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List.........
>>>
>> &gt;
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> with the
>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the
>> body of the message
>> Gareth Jones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CFHS online indexes the must for people with Carmarthenshire interests
>> membership now being taken ......
>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>> http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
>>
>> Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List.........
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> membership now being taken ......
>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>> http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:36:04 -0500
> From: "Joe Orfant" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <000c01c7548f$81209080$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I'll second that! All this extrodinary technology and phenomenal
> instantaneous access to records rather than pleasing only seems to feed
> our
> impatience.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:35:20 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
> From: "Susan Owen" <>
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Yes, one can email them with corrections. I have done it many times and
> it
> will absolutely get corrected.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Pauline James
> Date: 2/19/2007 2:35:01 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>
> Is it Susan as you did not sign your email
>
> I do not think that over half a dozen messages, including yours re
> ancestry are excessive or tiresome.......people have a right to their
> opinions, that is what these lists are for, and it is to do with
> genealogy...
>
> Yes, ancestry has opened up a whole new ball game, and has and does help
> many many people......as do Societies and individuals who index on a
> regular
> basis to help all individuals........
>
> Not heard about emailing ancestry with the corrections.........must be
> new?
>
> Pauline James
> List Admin Carmarthenshire
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Owen" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>
>
>> Getting a bit tired of this dialog regarding Ancestry. I live in the
>> States
>> As I understand, Ancestry uses computer technology to do the initial
>> work
>> then individuals go through it. I'm not sure that is done in India. But
>> I
>> am sure that if you email Ancestry with a correction, it will get
>> corrected.
>> There are many errors in transcription to be sure, but compared to
>> searching for hours on films to find one's ancestor, it is a walk in the
>> park. Without Ancestry, most of us would still be in the dark ages
>> regarding research. They are continually adding more information and the
>> information is so vast it will take years for it all to be completely
>> correct.
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From:
>> Date: 2/18/2007 10:47:04 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>>
>> Agreed - but I find "Lanarthney - Ireland" more than once!
>>
>> Gareth
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:00:58 EST
>>>From:
>>>Subject: [CMN-L] Ancestry being indexed in India
>>>To:
>>>
>>>Dear John Morris
>>>Very far from criticising the people in India who indexed
>> for Ancestry, I
>>>was congratulating them ! It is very hard to index
>> something in a foreign
>>>language even if you have a good working knowledge of that
>> second language. And
>>>maybe I'm wrong, but I would imaging that the number of
>> people in India who
>>>worked on this project who also speak and read Welsh
>> fluently are not very
>>>numerous. So it was a huge achievement. Just think of
>> all those Welsh
>>>names.... Better still imagine indexing a census for
>> India with all their wonderful
>>>long names!
>>>
>>>Also if you want to be pedantic, the fact that it
>> was 'indexed in India'
>>>does not in fact mean that it was all done by members
>> of 'The Indian nation'
>>>just by people who happen to work there -:)
>>>
>>>I know we need to be sensitive not to hurt other people,
>> but please be
>>>assured that I'm not a racial bigot
>>>Yours in peace and harmony Bethan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>CFHS online indexes the must for people with
>> Carmarthenshire interests membership now being taken ......
>>>http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>>>http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
>>>
>>>Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List.........
>>>
>> &amp;gt;
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the
>> body of the message
>> Gareth Jones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CFHS online indexes the must for people with Carmarthenshire interests
>> membership now being taken ......
>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.com
>> http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com
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