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From: John Carpenter <>
Subject: Re: English Carpenters 2
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:16:49 -0800


Dear John L.,

Yes! This English Carpenter line is a cousin line to our lines!

This English line, from Joseph Carpenter (b. 1709 England) to William of
Homme (William Carpenter b. 1440 Homme, Hertfordshire, England) is 11
generations. Joseph's line descends from James, the son of William of
Homme.

FOUNDER: William Carpenter of Homme is concidered the common ancestor of
the following branches of the Carpenter Family:
- REHOBOTH, MA Branch - Capt. William C. son of William (who married
Elizabeth the daughter of John of James the son of William of Homme) of
Robert (who married Eleanor C. daughter of Robert of William the son of
William of Homme) of William of Robert of Richard the son of William of
Homme.
- PROVIDENCE, RI Branch - William of Amesbury C. son of Richard of
Robert (who married Eleanor C. - see above) of William (who married
Elizabeth C. - see above) of Robert of Richard the son of William of
Homme.
- PHILADELPHIA, PA Branch - Samuel the son of John the Sheriff of
Robert, of Stephen of Robert of William the son of William of Homme.
- VIRGINIA BRANCH - Nathaniel Carpenter through his sons John and
Joseph. Nathaniel was the son of Joseph Carpenter, the grandson of
William Carpenter of Amesbury, the founder of the PROVIDENCE, RI Branch
of the Carpenters. Nathaniel was the son of Hannah Carpenter, the
grandson of Captain William Carpenter, the founder of the REHOBOTH, MA
Branch of the Carpenters.
- LORD LINES - William of Cobham (of William of Alexander of William of
John of James the son of William of Homme) who was granted a Coat of
Arms in 1663. AND - Warncomb Carpenter (of Thomas of James of James of
William of John of James the son of William of Homme) whose youngest
son, George became page to the Earl of Montague, and on account of
faithful service rendered to the Crown was created "Baron Carpenter of
Killaghy" in 1719.
- FEMALE LINE NOT LISTED ABOVE - Alice Carpenter (of Alexander of
William of John of James the son of William of Homme) who married a
Edward Southworth then married Govenor William Bradford of Plymouth
Colony.

There are several well documented Carpenter lines in England.

Take care!

John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA


" John L. Carpenter" wrote:
>
> does This line connect to the Others of Rehoboth or Providence ?
>
> >To help Trevor out a bit, the following data is given.
> >
> >Th confusion from my records to his lay in which Joseph Carpenter
> >married Sarah Woodfield. Per various sources I have the Joseph chr on 7
> >Jan 1709 whose son Thomas married a Mary AND Ann Lidbrooke.
> >
> >Some of the details do not fit what Trevor has found in his research.
> >
> >So anyone who has any additional information is encouraged to help out!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >John R. Carpenter
> >La Mesa, CA USA
> >
> >INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:50106
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> > Name:Joseph OR Jos CARPENTER Sex:M ID No:
> > Birth: Place:
> > Chr: 7 Jan 1709 Place:Saint Martin,Birmingham,W,England
> > Marr:27 Dec 1740 Spouse:Sarah OR Sar WOODFIELD-50123
> > Marr: Spouse:
> > Marr: Spouse:
> > Death:14 Mar 1758 Place:Harbury,Warwickshire,England
> >Burial: Place:
> >Father:Joseph C CARPENTER-50139 Mother:
> >Notes ---------------------------------------------------
> >!Batch #: C010725, Source Call #: 919765,919764,919764
> >MARRIAGE: Married at Bishops Itchington in Warwick.
> >!SEE: See the second E-MAIL message below. Trevor says he believes
> >another Joseph married Sarah Woodfield! Joseph CARPENTER baptised 29 Apr
> >1705 at Holy Trinity,Coventry,W,England. That Joseph is also in this
> >file.
> >
> >!E-MAIL: 17 Aug. 1999 from: Trevor Carpenter
> >The Carpenter Story - So Far
> >1715 - 1720ish Joseph Carpenter was born at an unknown location
> >1740 Joseph married Sarah Woodfield on 27 December at Bishops
> >Itchington (Warwicks)(She was baptised there 1716)
> >1754 Thomas Carpenter baptised at Harbury 29 December
> >1758 Joseph buried at Harbury 14 March
> >1764 Sarah buried at Harbury 30 July
> >1781 Thomas married Ann Lidbrook at Harbury 26 April
> >1799 Sarah Carpenter, daughter of above, baptised at Radford
> >Semele on 8th December.
> >1820 William Carpenter baptised at Radford 22 October.NO Father!!
> >Note: Sarah was not married when her son William was born.All records
> >including this are from personal knowledge, relevant certificates and
> >Church records. 1821 Sarah married John Ledbrooke of Offchurch at
> >Radford
> >15 Oct. (Thomas was a witness) (John was quite likely William's
> >father)
> >1832 Thomas buried at Radford 14 March
> >1841 Census; John,Sarah,William and Ann (Mother of Sarah) at Long
> >Itchington.
> >1842 Ann Carpenter buried at Radford Semele 27 July
> >1846 William Carpenter married Mary Stean at Harborough
> >Magna
> >(No Father given for William on the Marr.Cert.)on 14 October
> >1848 John Carpenter born 9 May at Harborough Magna.
> >1870 John Carpenter married Mary Kenny of Shawell (Just over
> >the
> > Leicestershire border) on 8 November at Shawell.
> > John was a Groom at Sheepy,Mary a Servant at Shawell,
> > William ,the Father,now a Coachman.No Father for Mary!!
> >1875 William Henry Carpenter,our Grandfather, baptised in
> >Sheepy
> > 5 September.
> >1881 Census,William and Mary innkeeper at The Black
> >Horse,Weedon
> > Northants.
> >1885 Mary,wife of William,buried at Harborough Magna 14
> >June.
> >1899 William (late of Rugby) buried at Sheepy Magna,31
> >May.Age 78
> >1900 William Henry married Florence Ann Marriott, 1 January
> >at
> > Leicester
> >1900 Percy William born at 52 William
> >St,Attleborough,Nuneaton,
> > 29th November.
> >1913 Mary buried at Sheepy on 16 January
> >1913 John buried at Sheepy on 25 September
> >1928 Percy married Lily May White, 26 May at Nuneaton.
> >1931 Eric William born 3 April
> >1933 Trevor Herbert born 3 February
> >1940 William Henry died 16 January buried Attleborough
> >cemetery
> >1952 Florence Ann died 2 December,buried Attleborough
> >cemetery.
> >1953 Eric married Joan Kathleen Dyson, 31 July at
> >Brierfield.
> >1954 Trevor married Barbara Jean Benfell, 3 April at
> >Nuneaton.
> >1973 Percy William died,29 April.Cremated at Nuneaton
> >1975 Lily May died,2 September.Cremated at Nuneaton.
> >********************************************************************
> >E-MAIL: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 From:
> >Thankyou for your recent message re-my quest.Some of your details just
> >don't
> >quite fit.I have another Joseph christened at Holy Trinity in Coventry
> >on26
> >April 1705,Father Samuel,Mother Mary.FHL number 1657254.I am checking
> >this
> >out.My Carpenters from the present back to Joseph are attached.Thanks
> >for the
> >other info.At present I use Ultimate Family Tree.Regards and keep in
> >touch. Trevor.
> >end notes
> >
> >INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:50136
> >---------------------------------------------------
> > Name:Thomas OR Thos CARPENTER Sex:M ID No:
> > Birth: Place:
> > Chr:29 Dec 1754 Place:Harbury,Warwickshire,England
> > Marr:26 Apr 1781 Spouse:Mary OR My LIDBROOKE-50167
> > Marr:26 Apr 1781 Spouse:Ann LIDBROOK-50184
> > Marr: Spouse:
> > Death:14 Mar 1832 Place:Radford Semele,Warwickshire,England
> >Burial: Place:
> >Father:Joseph OR Jos CARPENTER-50106 Mother:Sarah OR Sar WOODFIELD
> >-50123
> >Notes ------------------------------------------------------
> >!Batch #: C044202, Source Call #: 554797
> >MARRIAGE: Two marriages listed. Could this Thomas have been baptised
> >earlier, say about 1738/40? If so, the first marriage to Mary with son
> >named William makes sense.
> >end notes
> >
> >*******************************************************
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> My GGGrandfather William Carpenter married a Mary Stean at Harborough
> Magna
> >> in 1846.In 1849 their son John was born in that village.William and his
> wife
> >> then disappear until the 1881 census when they were publicans at
> >> Weedon,Northants.Their son John also disappears until he marries Mary
> Kenny
> >> at Shawell in Leicestershire in 1870 anyone have any records on this
> branch
> >> of the Carpenters? Trevor Carpenter
> >
> >

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