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From: John Carpenter <>
Subject: [CARPENTER] Re: revision (CHARTS)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:34:12 -0700
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Dear Bruce,

Okay, that makes Chart A more accurate over Chart B.

Can you please arrange the duplicates and other descendants on Chart B
and merge onto Chart A?

The charts do make it a lot easier to visualize.

See the charts below.

Many Thanks!

John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA

"Bruce E. Carpenter" wrote:
>
> While going through my paper I noticed that
> Roger 'the spicer' Carpenter had a sister Agnes
> and that John Carpenter of Staunton St.John
> (son of John Carpenter) had a daughter Agnes. John had
> a brother Thomas and Roger shared property interests
> in london with a Thomas. Roger
> 'the spicer' Carpenter should be considered
> a son of John Carpenter of Staunton St. John and not a son
> of William 'the spicer' Carpenter (c. 1300). This seems right to me
> in light of the 'wreck of the sea' Dorcet coast incident
> which named Edward le Charpenter and son Robert, Martin le Charpenter
> and son William, plus an additional John Carpenter. John, Martin
> and Edward should be three brothers. William should be the later William
> 'the spicer' Carpenter. John should be the father of the later John
> Carpenter
> of Staunton St. John (d. 1335). John Carpenter the father
> of John Carpenter of Staunton St. John should have
> been born c. 1240 as was Edward le Charpenter. This seems right to me now.
> BC
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CHART A

William le Carpenter b. abt 1170 to 1190
of St. Clement Dames
--------------------------------------
| | |
| Edward of St. Clement Danes |
| (b. abt 1205 to 1235) |
| Martin le Carpenter
| (b. abt 1205 to 1235)
| SEE CHART B
|
John le Carpenter b. abt 1205 to 1235
| | | (Jean or Jehan in French??)
| | |
| | Agnes b. abt 1275 to 1305 (she inherited)
| John le Carpenter b. abt 1275 to 1280
| of Stanton St. John who died in the 1330s.
|
1) Roger or Rodger Carpenter b. abt 1280 to 1310 d. 1349
| | |
| Daughter m by 1349 |
| (b. abt 1329 to 1334) |
| |
Thomas b. 1349 Walter b. abt 1325 to 1347 (1342?)
| |
| |
| |-------|(HIGHER PROBABILITY AS SON)
|?--------------->?
| Richard of Mochelden b. abt 1360 to 1389
|
|----------Thomas Carpenter b. abt 1380 in Suffolk
| |
Robert b. abt 1370 to 1395 |
| Thomas b. abt 1410
Richard b. abt 1405 to 1429 |
John b. abt 1450 of Caversham d. 1544
|
William b. abt 1480
|
John b. abt 1505


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CHART B

Martin le Carpenter (b. abt 1205 to 1235) SEE CHART A
|
William Carpenter (b. abt 1250?) 'the spicer'(1235 TO 1265)
| | |
| | Ralph? of Norfolk?
| |? (b. abt 1265 to 1295)
| William le Charpenter b. abt 1310 to 1330
| aka William 'the apothecary' le Charpenter
| In Norfolk in 1337?
| |
| John
|
1) Roger Carpenter b. abt 1310 to 1330 d. 1349 'the spicer'
| |
Thomas b. 1349 Walter b. abt 1325 to 1359 (1342?)
| |
| |
| |-------|
|?--------------------->?
| Richard of Mochelden b. abt 1360 to 1389
|
Robert b. abt 1370 to 1395

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