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From: "Donna Cuzze" <>
Subject: [CARPENTER] Re: Thomas & Rueben as per Carp CD
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 01:05:13 -0800
References: <F186fNLnlyg35sQtgTI0000f370@hotmail.com>


re: RUEBEN & THOMAS CARPENTERs

A few years ago, I gave my original information to John for his CD. Since
that time, I have been able to gather and analyze the records. I
colaborated with Terry Carpenter (authored works on Southern Carpenter
lines) and also with Steve Martanak (reasearcher of the NC Carpenters).

There seems to be some confusion over the Thomas CARPENTERS who were all
born early 1800s. Let me see if I can clear this up. Originally a work was
done by Ms. Ross which most folks took for granted. If one looks at the
records recorded in Henry Co GA, you will see each time Thomas (the brother
of James Warren Carpenter) is mentioned, he is listed as Thomas "M."
Carpenter. His father was also a Thomas, the brother of Reuben Carpenter,
Sr. The fathers were born circa 1776-1785. Each named a son Thomas. The
had another brother named John. John born the same era had a son named
Thomas also.

1. One was born 1800/1801 and was the son of Rueben of Edgefield SC
(b.1776-1780). This Thomas Carpenter was in Chickasaw, MS in the 1840 &
1850 census. Children: Rebecca, Caroline, Lucinda & Timothy.
2. The other one was Thomas "M." CARPENTER of Henry County GA who was born
1810 and had land transactions in Henry Co GA and had a brother James Warren
Carpenter. His father was Thomas (b. abt 1785) the brother of Reuben. This
Thomas "M" (note only 9 yrs difference in birth from #1 Thomas of MS) went
to Randolph Co ALA about 1835. His brother James Warren married Sarah
Abigail HARLIN who was bonded as a child by Thomas "M"s father, Thomas
Carpenter of Henry Co. GA.
Children: Mary L/E, William Thomas, Elisabeth, Lucinda, James R. John W.,
Joseph, Lewis, Martha, Zachariah, Robert A, Nathan .

Luckilly, Thomas "M"s daughter, Elizabeth married John HOLLOWAY and
descendant Bev KEY noted a Bible record.

3. The other Thomas was born about 1801 lived in Lincoln Co. GA and Coweta
GA and was the son of John CARPENTER. This Thomas had a son named Thomas
Washington Carpenter b. abt 1832 who went to Marion Co. ALA according to
descendant Greg NABORS.

To make things more confusing, Reuben Sr. and Thomas Sr. (the elder
brothers) both named sons Reuben. There was Reuben Jr. who went to TX.
There was Reuben L. Carpenter who followed his brother Thomas "M" to
Alabama.

It was "suspected" that the Thomas Carpenter b. circa 1780-85 was the son of
Thomas "Jack" Carpenter, but NOT proven. It was suspected the same Thomas
along with his brother Rueben Sr. were sons of Abigail JORDAN and an UNKNOWN
Carpenter but also NOT proven.

Descendants of Thomas & Reuben CARPENTER

1 CARPENTER, Zachariah? Thomas? b: Abt. 1750
. +?, Abigail ? Jordan b: Abt. 1750
.... 2 CARPENTER, THOMAS* b: Bet. 1775 - 1782 d: Bet. 1838 - 1845 in Henry
Co, Georgia (?Seminole War?)not in 1850 census
....... +MARTHENA, Mary / b: Bet. 1775 - 1790
.......... 3 [1] CARPENTER, Zachariah "possibly" b: Abt. 1805
............. +SPOUSE, First b: Bet. 1804 - 1810
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son 1 of Zac b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 1 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 2 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 3 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
.......... *2nd Wife of [1] CARPENTER, Zachariah "possibly":
............. +JORDAN, "Possibly" Margaret b: Bet. 1805 - 1822
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: Bet. 1805 - 1810 d: Bet. 1845 - 1849 in
ALA
............. +WILKINS, William W. b: February 22, 1815 d: December 10, 1884
in AL, Clay Co. bur: Old Ashland Cemetery
................ 4 WILKINS, Eliza b: Abt. 1839
................ 4 WILKINS, Sandord R.(D) b: November 12, 1840 d: February
12, 1899 in AL bur: Old Ashland Cemetery
................ 4 WILKINS, George b: Abt. 1845 d: in "possibly" went to
Autaugua Co AL
.......... 3 [3] CARPENTER, Thomas M. II b: April 23, 1810 d: November 15,
1853 in Randolph Co., ALA
............. +BARROW, Lucinda b: August 12, 1811 d: July 16, 1852 in
?Randlph Co, ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary L/E. b: December 14, 1833 d: November 30,
1862 in prob. Carroll Co., GA
................... +TANNER, Joseph b: Abt. 1830 d: Unknown
................ 4 [2] CARPENTER, William Thomas b: April 18, 1835 d: April
18, 1900 in AL, Randolph Co.
................... +(CURRY?), Mary or Mandy b: Bet. 1839 - 1841 d: April
17, 1894 in AL, Randolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cemetery
................ *2nd Wife of [2] CARPENTER, William Thomas:
................... +WATSON, Amanda Frances"Fanny" b: Bet. July 24 1847 -
1851 d: 1941 in AL, Newell, Rrandolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cem.
................ 4 CARPENTER, Elizabeth C. b: August 10, 1836 d: February
27, 1907 in AL, Randolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cemetery
................... +HOLLOWAY, John, Jr. b: Abt. 1835 d: Aft. 1880
................ 4 CARPENTER, Lucinda b: May 11, 1838 d: 1905 in Randolph
Co., ALA Valley Grove Cemetery
................... +LIPHAM, Thomas Newton b: October 07, 1827 d: April 09,
1894 in Randolph Co., ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, James R. b: May 17, 1839 d: November 27, 1863
in CSA 56th GA INF
................ 4 CARPENTER, John W. b: October 12, 1840 d: Unknown
................ 4 CARPENTER, Joseph b: August 31, 1842 d: April 10, 1862 in
Civil War?
................ 4 CARPENTER, Lewis b: February 13, 1845 d: Unknown
................ 4 CARPENTER, Martha H. b: January 21, 1847 d: April 11,
1864 in ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Zachariah b: February 26, 1849
................ 4 CARPENTER, Robert A. b: March 06, 1851 d: Unknown
................... +MCBURNETT, Martha (ML/MH) b: Abt. 1852 d: Unknown
................ 4 CARPENTER, Nathan b: July 16, 1852 d: September 17, 1852
in Randolph Co, ALA
.......... *2nd Wife of [3] CARPENTER, Thomas M. II:
............. +BARROW, Ruth b: Abt. 1815 d: Aft. 1853 in prob AL
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Frances "Fannie" b: Bet. 1810 - 1820
............. +MCKEE b: Bet. 1823 - 1825
.......... 3 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN*, Sr. b: January 21, 1813 d: January
04, 1857 in Clay/Talladega Co., ALA bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
............. +HARLIN, SARAH ABIGAYLE "SALLIE"* b: March 01, 1820 d: January
14, 1914 in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
................ 4 CARPENTER, Lydia Elizabeth b: October 20, 1839 d: June
05, 1917 in lived in North ALA in 1911 (72 yrs old)
................... +HAMNER, William R. b: February 27, 1836 d: March 15,
1908 in lived in North ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary Ann b: May 28, 1841 d: February 02, 1878
in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Macedonia Baptist Cemeter
................... +PONDER, Jasper b: Abt. 1841 d: Unknown in Clay Co,
Alabama
................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah Abigail b: December 16, 1842 d: March
31, 1924 in AL, Franklin Co. Bur: Bethel Cem.
................... +JOHNSON, Thomas L. b: July 31, 1833 d: March 14, 1924
in AL, Franklin Co. Bur: Bethel Cem.
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mathena Candis b: January 01, 1844 d: August
27, 1877 in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
................ 4 [4] CARPENTER, Nancy Jane b: September 13, 1846 d:
October 28, 1905 in Unknown
................... +BREWSTER, M.J.C. b: Abt. 1846 d: Unknown in Unknown
................ *2nd Husband of [4] CARPENTER, Nancy Jane:
................... +WILLOUGHBY, William J. b: Abt. 1846 d: Unknown in
Unknown
................ 4 CARPENTER, ZACHARIAH THOMAS*, Sr. b: July 29, 1848 d:
August 10, 1908 in Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama -Concord Bapt Cemetery
................... +JOHNSON, Martha "MATTIE"Teague b: November 04, 1850 d:
November 21, 1930 in Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama -Concord Bapt Cemetery
................ 4 [5] CARPENTER, David Harlin b: November 10, 1850 d:
February 21, 1921 in Ashland, Clay Co, Alabama Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
................... +HARRIS, Margaret Jane b: November 09, 1849 d: January
14, 1931 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
................ *2nd Wife of [5] CARPENTER, David Harlin:
................... +BARTLETT, Sarah Annie Agnes b: November 22, 1848 d:
January 21, 1878 in Clay Co, Alabama bur:Macedonia Primitive Cemetery
................ 4 CARPENTER, Emaly Caroline b: May 30, 1853 d: October 01,
1868 in Clay Co, Alabama
................ 4 [6] CARPENTER, James Warren "Bud", Jr. b: May 30, 1856 d:
August 07, 1913 in Lineville, Clay Co., ALA Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
................... +RAY, Mary "Mollie" Elizabeth b: September 08, 1856 d:
July 02, 1901 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
................ *2nd Wife of [6] CARPENTER, James Warren "Bud", Jr.:
................... +WHITE, Callie b: April 02, 1876 d: February 11, 1931 in
Clay Co, Alabama Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Samuel "Tanner Sam" b: January 07, 1815 d: April 26,
1876 in ALA Clay Co bur: Old Wedowee Cem
............. +L./Q., Elizabeth b: July 12, 1820 d: December 23, 1891 in ALA
Clay Co bur: Old Wedowee Cem
................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah A. b: 1841
................ 4 [7] CARPENTER, Frances b: 1843
................... +GREEN, Henry b: Abt. 1840
................ *2nd Husband of [7] CARPENTER, Frances:
................... +GAUNTT, Elbert T. b: Abt. 1840
................ 4 CARPENTER, Martha b: 1845
................ 4 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: 1847
................ 4 CARPENTER, Luther A. b: 1849
.......... 3 [8] CARPENTER, Charles K. b: June 10, 1816 d: January 17, 1897
in Talladega Co., ALA
............. +KENDRICK, Nancy b: Abt. 1817 d: Abt. 1841 in ALA ?
................ 4 CARPENTER, Daniel H. b: Abt. 1840
.......... *2nd Wife of [8] CARPENTER, Charles K.:
............. +MILLER, Jane E. b: May 25, 1820 d: October 21, 1901 in
Talladega Co., ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Rebecca A. b: 1842
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary E. b: 1844
................ 4 CARPENTER, William b: 1846
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 10 Boy b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 8 Girl b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 9 Girl b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
.......... 3 CARPENTER, William Henry b: 1825 d: Bet. 1861 - 1865 in CFArmy
Shelbyville, TENN
............. +GARRETT, MARY Jane (NANCY?) b: February 15, 1835 d: Aft. 1880
in prob ALA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Francis William Henry b: May 28, 1859 d: Aft.
1895 in Clay Co, Ala bur: Olive Branch
................... +GREEN, Mariah b: 1857 d: 1911 in Clay Co, Ala bur:
Olive Branch Cemetery
................ 4 CARPENTER, Zachariah R. b: December 1861 d: Aft. 1900
................... +LAWS, Willie b: Abt. 1870 d: Aft. 1889
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Martha b: Abt. 1827 d: Aft. 1850 in Unknown
............. +COOK, Francis T. speculate b: Abt. 1806
................ 4 CARPENTER, Elisha b: Abt. 1845
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Reuben L (Lewis?) b: December 14, 1828 d: June 21,
1863 in CFArmy Shelbyville, TENN
............. +GARRETT, EMILY b: April 27, 1833 d: May 31, 1915 in Clay Co.,
AL Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
................ 4 CARPENTER, Elijah Thomas b: April 27, 1849 d: April 13,
1855 in Clay Co., AL bur: Old Macedonia Cemetery next to grandma
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary/Nancy Jane b: Abt. 1852
................... +HAMLIN, Gee Jethro b: Abt. 1850
................ 4 CARPENTER, John Lewis b: January 03, 1854 d: July 13,
1930 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
................... +HAMLIN, Mary Jamima b: May 10, 1853 d: July 31, 1946 in
Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
................ 4 CARPENTER, Geonetta "Jenetty" b: June 08, 1855
................... +MCCAIN, Dixon Hall b: Abt. 1850
................ 4 CARPENTER, Julia Ann b: March 22, 1858
................... +PITTS, Jim b: Abt. 1855
................ 4 CARPENTER, Sophronia "Sophie" b: June 07, 1861
................... +HARRIS, Johnathan H. b: Abt. 1860
................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah Armenda b: Abt. 1863 d: 1958
................... +HUDSON, James G. "Glen" b: Abt. 1862
.... 2 [10] CARPENTER, Reuben, Sr. b: Bet. 1776 - 1780 d: Abt. 1840 in
Edgefield Co., SC in SC 1810 and 1830 census
....... +BUTLER, Mary b: Bet. 1776 - 1780 d: 1838
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Thomas b: Abt. 1800 d: Aft. 1850 in ?Chickasaw Co.,
MISS
............. +AVEY b: Abt. 1802 d: Unknown in ?Chickasaw Co., MISS
................ 4 CARPENTER, Rebecca b: Abt. 1835
................ 4 CARPENTER, Caroline b: Abt. 1838
................ 4 CARPENTER, Lucinda b: Abt. 1840
................ 4 CARPENTER, Timothy b: Abt. 1850
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Boy 3 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Boy 4 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Girl 3 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Abigail b: Abt. 1806 d: Unknown in Edgefield Co., SC
............. +STALNAKER, Samuel b: Abt. 1805 d: Unknown in ?Edgefield, SC
.......... 3 [9] CARPENTER, Reuben, Jr. b: Abt. 1807 d: 1853 in 1850 Upsher
TX and 1850 Talladega AL CENSUS *Pg 424 ref pg 417
............. +WIFE, Reubens b: Abt. 1807
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 1 b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 2 b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
................ 4 CARPENTER, Robert b: 1825 d: 1862 in St Louis MO while in
Union-Co B 1st ARK Volunteer INF
................... +POWELL, Mary A. b: Abt. 1825 d: Aft. 1891
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son Reuben 4 b: Bet. 1825 - 1830
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 3 b: Bet. 1825 - 1830
................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 5 b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 1 b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 2 b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 3 b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
.......... *2nd Wife of [9] CARPENTER, Reuben, Jr.:
............. +KENDRICK, Ellen b: 1818 d: Unknown
................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah J. b: 1844
................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary A.R. b: 1846
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Mary b: Abt. 1807 d: Unknown in Chickasaw Co., MS ?
............. +GRAY, James b: Abt. 1805 d: Unknown in Chickasaw Co., MS ?
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Jane b: Abt. 1815 d: Unknown
............. +BUTLER, Samuel b: Abt. 1815 d: Unknown in Edgefield Co., SC
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Martha b: Abt. 1817 d: Aft. 1843 in Unk
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Ellen b: Abt. 1820 d: Bef. 1843 in SC ?
............. +BARDON, John S. b: Abt. 1820 d: Unknown in SC ?
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Frances b: Abt. 1822 d: Bef. 1843 in SC ?
............. +HILL, Joel P. b: Abt. 1820 d: Unknown in Unk
.... *2nd Wife of [10] CARPENTER, Reuben, Sr.:
....... +HENDERSON, Rebecca b: Abt. 1780
.... 2 CARPENTER, Nancy b: Bet. 1770 - 1782
.... 2 CARPENTER, Mary b: Bet. 1770 - 1782
.... 2 CARPENTER, John b: Bet. 1774 - 1782 d: Aft. 1820 in prob: Lincoln
Co., GA
....... +WIFE, Johns b: Abt. 1780 d: Unknown in prob: Lincoln Co., GA
.......... 3 CARPENTER, Thomas see note b: October 01, 1801 d: 1881 in
Coweta Co., GA
............. +JOHNSON, Lovenia "Lovie" b: May 09, 1802 d: April 19, 1875 in
Coweta Co., GA
................ 4 CARPENTER, Thomas Washington b: April 28, 1832 d:
February 09, 1899 in Hamilton, Marion Co., AL
................... +FLURRY, Antoinette P. b: 1836 d: 1886 in Hamilton,
Marion Co., AL
.... 2 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: Bet. 1776 - 1782 d: Unknown in Unk
....... +HANCOCK, George b: Bet. 1770 - 1780 d: Unknown in Unk


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