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From: "Sue Silver" <>
Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of C.A.B.I.
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:52:30 -0800
References: <200112122229.fBCMTeB08220@newmail.rootsweb.com>

All banks require you to state your social security number and then they ask
for your mother's maiden name. A California birth certificate prior to the
1980's would not provide a social security number. Sometime after 1968
(when my daughter was born), they began issuing social security numbers at
birth (a lot of people complained about that then as being too "Big
Brotherish."

If the bad people of this world want to steal your identity, they can find a
number of other ways to do it. Try going through your trash some day and
just look at the pieces of mail you toss that can give them just as much
information as other more valued sources.

Sue Silver

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of
C.A.B.I.


> What I don't understand is why the state doesn't provide the information
> thusly: (1) the regular birth certificate, to be issued ONLY to the
individual
> in question (or to his/her parents or legal guardians); and (2) a
transcript of
> the birth record for anyone else who asks. Also, banks should require more
than
> just the mother's maiden name as an identification on bank accounts. How
about
> a password (similar to what is required to use the ATM), a driver's
license
> number or some other kind of random question, like "What was your 8th
grade
> math teacher's name?" No system of identification is foolproof but there
has
> got to be an easier way to remove the potential for fraud than to restrict
> access to public records and make it more difficult for genealogists to do
> their research.
>
>
> > First off, greetings!
> >
> > snip<Similarly, while Davis has now restricted access to the state's
full
> > birth and death record databases, it is still legal in most cases for an
> > individual to get an official copy of anyone's birth certificate.>snip
> >
> > Being this is still the case, what is the point might I ask? I suppose
it
> > means only those that have real interest in finding out about someone
will
> > pursue these indexes (terrorist or not).
> >
> > Frankly, I was horrified when the California Birth Index was released
> > online. I actually emailed rootsweb.com and asked them to REMOVE
certain
> > individuals in my family. They never even bothered to reply and now
they
> > wonder what the chink in the armor was that has led to the destruction
of
> > their superiorty complex with respect to geneaological records?
> >
> > Fortunately, my late father had two identities established shortly after
> > birth & he appears in the death index under the wrong name. No one
could
> > steal his identity (nor my grandfather - he had THREE identities thanks
to
> > the quake of 1906).
> >
> > I wonder how many other "old folks" may be or were in this situation?
> > Luckily when you are dead you are dead according to a law passed in
1988.
> > *sigh*
> >
> > So much for doing any sort of bonafide/genuine geneaological research
given
> > all the civil liberties we are now surrendering on a daily basis.
> >
> > S. F. O'Donnell
> >
> > >From: George Rushton <>
> > >To:
> > >Subject: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of
> > >C.A.B.I.
> > >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:34:43 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >You might want to read this article from Saturday's
> > >San Jose Mercury News, on the issue of privacy and the
> > >C.A.B.I. It is I think a well balanced story.
> > ><http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/privacy08.htm>;
> > >
> > >George
> > >
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> >
> >
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This thread:

• [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of C.A.B.I. by George Rushton <>
  • Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of C.A.B.I. by "S.F. O'Donnell" <>
  • Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of C.A.B.I. by

    • Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue of C.A.B.I. by "Sue Silver" <>

      • Re: [CASANFRA] Article from the San Jose Mercury, on the issue ofC.A.B.I. by Joann <>