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From: JA Lounibos <>
Subject: RE: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census - 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <004d01c68dde$eb4c9a80$7e85fea9@StewardK>


Up to about 1870, shawls were a dominant fashion item. Paisley, Kashmir, Pashmina....all kinds,
but definitely high end....

http://www.victoriana.com/library/paisley/shawl.html



--- Kaye Steward <> wrote:

> Thanks for responding - "Shawl Store" ... I can see where the writing looks
> like 'shawl', and perhaps, because they were Jewish, they sold prayer shawls
> and other religious items...just speculation, of course.
>
> However, I can't help but think that 'shawl store' heightens the mystery -
> imagine a wealthy man by any standards ($50,000 worth of real estate,
> $100,000 of personal estate in that 1870 Census) and with 5 children -
> making a living by selling 'shawls'... must have been a high fashion item at
> that time. (grin)
>
> Seriously, I do appreciate the suggestion - I will see what I can find that
> fits with this possibility!
> Kaye
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JA Lounibos [mailto:]
> Sent: June 11, 2006 9:49 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census -
> 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY)
>
>
> It may have have had only eight wards, but Ancestry's copy of the page/49
> has
>
> Census > U.S. Census > 1870 United States Federal Census > California > San
> Francisco > San
> Francisco Ward 12 Image 168
>
> Written page 49, 2nd Preceinct, 12th Ward.........18th of June
> 1870.........???
>
> I'd venture..... Wh & Ret Shawl Store/Wholesale & Retail Shawl Store.....???
>
> JAL......hmmmm?
>
> --- Doug Urbanus <> wrote:
>
> > There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider
> the written versus
> > stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse
> mode, since I can find
> > no S Rosenbatt for this census year.
> >
> >
> > Kaye Steward <> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the
> assistance of any
> > listmembers who have
> > access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in
> > de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that
> > Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT'
> in
> > this census - without the "L".
> >
> > I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and
> Retail) -
> > and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar
> > with those terms, so not sure what that might be.
> >
> > My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants
> > working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's
> > business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the
> years
> > following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in
> later
> > years, I believe the family had another business in 1870.
> >
> > I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent
> > years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in
> 1872
> > and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info.
> >
> > However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to
> > resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa
> > 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are
> there
> > any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if
> Alice
> > TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF
> > before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc)
> >
> > (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in
> > 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San
> > Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life
> > are most welcome too!)
> >
> > K. Steward
> > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> >
> >
> >
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