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From: "SUE" <>
Subject: Re: [CASTLE-GARDEN] KELLNER - abt 1885
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:24:29 -0400


Maybe this excerpt will settle this once and for all. This is from the site
http://members.tripod.com/~L_Alfano/immig.htm

Please go here and read this.

"...On June 13, 1897 the original wooden structure [at Ellis Island] burned
to the ground. All the administrative records for Castle Garden for the
period 1855-1890 and most of the records for the Barge Office and Ellis
facilities were lost. Ellis Island's entire collection of state and federal
lists were stored there and burned (even the underground record vault
burned!). Fortunately, copies of the passenger lists were held by the
Customs Collector and abstracts were held in Washington, DC. The Customs
lists did not have as much information about passengers as did the
Immigration lists, and the fire is the reason that the New York Immigration
passenger lists begin with arrivals on June 16, 1897, instead of with 1891
arrivals. "

I think this information should be placed on this Castle Garden site where
you have to sign up. Then people won't falsely get their hopes up as most
people seem to be doing. They seem to think by signing up at this site that
records are available and they're going to find their person right away.
And since most of the emails reflect this, evidently the fact that there are
no records, is not being made clear.

Please think about it.

Thank you

-----Original Message-----
From: Iginio J Fitzpatrick <>
To: <>
Date: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [CASTLE-GARDEN] KELLNER - abt 1885


>Dear List,
>
>I did not realize that records from Castle Garden are actually available. I
>have an ancestor who came to the US from Ireland. I don't know what year he
>came over except that it was before 1889. There is a possibility that he
>landed in New York. How would I go about determining which microfilm to
look
>at?
>
>Respectfully Yours
>Iginio Fitzpatrick
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CASTLE-GARDEN] KELLNER - abt 1885
>
>
>> Hi Roger ,
>> Have you tried to search for any information re Naturalization ?
>> If you can find the info on his Naturalization it will list the date of
>his
>> arrival and the name of the Ship . Since most of the Ship's
>> Manifests for that time period are on micro film they will be
>> available at the National Archives (NARA) or from Lineages in Salt
>> Lake City . Both have a very modest charge and Lineages is faster
>> . That was the route I took to find the manifest for my g-father who
>> came to the US in 1884 . Too bad that the records at Castle-
>> Gardens were not kept in a better manner , but the info is there
>> If I can be of any help let me know .
>> Bill Markey
>> Collins , Mo..
>>
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