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From: Kathleen Della Fera <>
Subject: Re: [CENSUS-CHAT] Census lookup
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:57:32 -0500
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Hello James,
I am certainly no expert but your story is very similar to mine so I
thought I would share some of my findings to see if it will help you.
First of all, I am not aware of a 1925 census. Are you sure it is the
official census because it was conducted every 10 years and the latest
available census right now is 1930? The 1940 census won't be
available to us until April of 2012. My father is still alive and he
says he filled out an alien registration request every January for my
grandfather so I have requested an index search for him through the
USCIS and when I receive that I will request an alien registration
number request to show he was not a citizen at the time of my father's
birth. Also, check his death certificate through the vital statistics
department when he died. My grandfather's is wrong as says US citizen
but perhaps yours is correct. Lastly, perhaps he registered for
social services for WWI or WWII. I have a copy of his draft card for
WWI showing he was not a citizen but it was before my father was born
as thus not valid in the eyes of the Italian consulate.

Hope this is helpful.

Sincerely,
Kathleen Della Fera
On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, James Stieglitz wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
> I am applying for dual citizenship with Italy. I have done searches
> through
> uscis, nara, Ontario county ny and seneca county ny that show no
> record of
> my grandfather, Thomas Gillotte, originally written Tomasso
> Gigliotti, born
> 1/1897 in Adam, Decollatura, Catanzaro, Calabria Italy. He lived in
> Geneva
> NY, which is in Ontario county NY until his death in 5/1991. All
> have been
> unable to find any records of a naturalization application, which is
> beneficial to my cause. The problem is that the 1925 census has a
> box that
> asks if the person is a citizen, and it is checked yes. The Italian
> consulate has asked me to try and clarify if this was just a case of
> the
> person being asked if they are a citizen and could then just answer
> yes/no
> as there was no real verification, or if perhaps, the census has some
> records if naturalization, and proof would have been required. Now, of
> course the problem is that this all took place 85 years ago, but my
> question
> is; is there any records of the procedures that existed 85 years
> ago that
> could clarify whether the person in question could just respond as
> they
> pleased, or would some document have been required to claim
> citizenship on
> the census, or is there no real way to know, and can I obtain some
> sort of
> letter from the census that I could present to the Italian
> consulate. I know
> that was a long request, and I thank you in advance for any help you
> can
> give me.
> James Gillotte Stieglitz
>
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