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From: "Sue Fielding" <>
Subject: Re: [CHS] Royal College of Arms
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:23:45 +0000


Hello Bob, thank you for your snippet but Denton IN Haughton? I beg to
differ by one mile! the Hydes of Haughton were a different lot although
descended likewise from Mathew de Hida. This would have been Robert Hyde of
Hyde Hall Denton but his male line died out in 1684. The coats of Arms of
the Hydes of Hyde, Hyde of Norbury and Hyde of Urmston are all very similar.
Why are my Hydes of Haughton so elusive? I know so much about them but can I
sort them out! If only they hadn't all had brothers and cousins it would be
so simple.
Sue

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>From: "Bob Kirk" <>
>To: "Sue Fielding" <>
>Subject: Re: [CHS] Royal College of Arms
>Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 3:15 pm
>

> Sue
> I dont know if this is relevant but here goes.
>
> Many years ago on a visit to Lancaster Castle we were shown the Coats of
> Arms of all those that had kept the keys to the castle. Apparently the duty
> used to rotate around the county. I remember that amongst them was the Coat
> of Arms for the the occupants of Hyde Hall, Denton which is in Haughton. We
> came from Denton and thats why it stuck.
>
> May be there might be some information still to be had at the Castle.
>
>
> Bob KIRK
> Dukinfield
> Cheshire
>
> Interests
> KIRK (Crewe area)
> DAWSON ( Manchester)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Fielding" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:37 PM
> Subject: [CHS] Royal College of Arms
>
>
>> Hello List Members,
>>
>> I have a problem and I would welcome any of your ideas and suggestions as
> to
>> how to proceed.
>>
>> I am anxious to find a certified Pedigree dated 15 April 1658, by William
>> Ryley, Norroy King of Arms.
>> In the year 1771 it was in the possession of Robert Hyde Esq. of
> Manchester
>> (It had been granted during the years of the the Commonwealth)
>>
>> On my last visit to M.C.L. I found by chance the following little
> reference:
>>
>> 1869 College of Arms. Contents from 21 Henry V111 to latter end of 17th.
> c.
>> search for a Coat of Arms has for the past 200 years cost 2/6d. and for a
>> copy of an extract of a Pedigree the cost is 5/- per generation.
>>
>> Last year I applied to the Royal College of Arms to request a copy of the
>> above Pedigree of 1658 and a request to look for a Pedigree for the Hydes
> of
>> Haughton.
>>
>> The reply I received was not very helpful:
>>
>> "William Ryley's Pedigree for 1658 has probably been destroyed because it
>> was issued during the Commonwealth.
>>
>> If you send a cheque for 120 I will look for Hyde of Haughton"
>>
>> My questions are: am I being taken for a ride?
>> Is it really possible for the cost to leap to 120?
>> Is there ANY OTHER SOURCE which contains the necessary information I am
>> seeking?
>>
>> Sue
>>
>>
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