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From: "Jan Craig" <>
Subject: Re: [CHS] 1896 Kelly's Directory for Cheshire
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:44:39 +0100
Apprenticeships traditionally lasted 7 years, from 14 to 21.
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From: "Gay King" <>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CHS] 1896 Kelly's Directory for Cheshire
> Hi Wendy,
> Thank you! My grandfather's enlistment papers in 1900 gave T Sparks as the
> painter he was apprenticed to for the previous 5 yrs. I think he
> exaggerated the length of time but whatever....
> What he wrote looks like:
> T. Spark painter [(single indecipherable letter) Gown] 5 years
> The 'gown' is unclear and wondered if it was Journ for journeyman.
> So would be:
> T. Spark painter's Journ 5 years
> Think I will have to be content with that.
> Thanks again.
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> Sent: October 17, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: 'Gay King'
> Subject: RE: [CHS] 1896 Kelly's Directory for Cheshire
> Hello Gay
> 1895 Gores Directory for Liverpool which includes Birkenhead and close by
> No t Sparks listed under:
> Painters Plumbers and Glaziers
> Paper hangers
> Paint Manufacturers
> Thomas Sparke (sic) , painter, 35 Rose Mount, Oxton
> No Thomas listed under Sparks either
> Could he have been a journeyman painter, a painter who had come out of
> apprenticeship and travelled from job to job, either for himself or for
> company. If he worked for T. Sparks, then T Sparks may have just been a
> 'company' but not big enough to be listed under companies or maybe your gf
> worked with T. Sparks who did not employ any other men.
> Hope this helps
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