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Subject: Re: CHOATE-D Digest V04 #19
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:46:36 -0500
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Silas Choate is who my line is from.
Here is what I have on Silas Choate,
and his father Moses Choate. I hope
this helps someone.
Angela in OK

> ............Father: Silas CHOATE ??? OO-TE-TA-UNT
>.................................b. 1780 in N.C. d. abt. 1861 Skin Bayou, Cherokee Nat, I.T.
>.................................son of Moses CHOATE
>.................................3 marriages: 1. Isabelle BROWN b.9 DEC 1797
>....................................................2. Catherine Kate MCCAMERON
>....................................................3. Matilda Emiline Scott
>.................................children by Silas CHOATE and Isabella BROWN
>.....................................1. Sanders CHOATE b. 24 JAN 1820 Cherokee Nation East
>.....................................2. James Brown CHOATE b. abt. 1822 Will's Valley, AL
>.....................................3. Jon Brown CHOATE, SR b. 5 MAR 1824
>.....................................4. William CHOATE b. 1834
>................................children by Silas CHOATE and Catherine Kate McCAMERON
>.....................................1. Albert b. 1826 Old Cherokee Nation, Wills Valley, AL
>.....................................2. Andrew b. 1826 Old Cherokee Nation, Wills Valley, AL
>.....................................3. Celia b. 1830 Old Cherokee Nation, Wills Valley, AL
>.....................................4. Male ? b. 1833
>.....................................5. William b. 18 OCT 1835 Cherokee Nation
>.....................................6. David C. b. abt. 1837
>.....................................7. Susan b. 1841
>.....................................8. Polly b. 1848
>.....................................9. Angerona 10 OCT 1852 Sequoyah Dist, Cherokee Nat., I.T.
>..................................SIBINGS by Mose CHOATE and ?
>..........................................1. Edward CHOATE
>..........................................2. Sanders Boone CHOATE
>...................................................b: Abt. 1790 married Susan RILEY
>..........................................3. James CHOATE b: 1790 m.1. Martha COLE
>...................................................2. Nancy ? 3. Rebecca ?.
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>..................................More About SILAS CHOATE: Blood: Non-Cherokee
>...................................(Some say he was Irish, and others 1/4 Cherokee.)
>..................................Emigration: as an Old Settler, returned East and then
>..................................emigrated right before the Removal "Trail of Tears"
> .................................Silas CHOATE lived in Gilmer Co., GA, then Forsythe
> ..................... ...........then moved his family from Forsythe Co.,Georgia
> ................................1829 and settled near Greenwood Junction, Indian
> ................................Territory; and lived.there til his death right before
> .................................the civil war.
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http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choaterb.html
Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma - Indian Pioneer Papers
Interview: Robert B. Choate
Silas CHOATE is one of the oldest of the Choate family that we have
any history that has lived in this country. He came with the first old settlers
and only stayed a short time and went back to the East, then returned with
the Immigrants and settled down on a place near the present site of
Greenwood Junction, near the present state line of Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Silas Choate, lived there until his death which occurred sometime before the
Civil War.
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(first wife of Silas Choate or Shoat)
ISABELLE7 BROWN (SARAH6 HICKS, NA-YE-HI5 WOLF, JENNIE4 ANI'-WA'YA,
OCONOSTOTA3, MOYTOY2, AMATOYA1)
was born December 09, 1797, and died November 25, 1848 in Dwight Mission, IT.
She married SILAS CHOATE Bef. 1820. He was born Abt. 1792, and died Bef. 1861.
More About ISABELLE BROWN:
Clan: Ani'-Wa'ya = Wolf Clan (Peggy Scott)
Education 1: April 04, 1809, Spring Place Mission School
Education 2: Bet. 1806 - 1807, Gideon Blackburn's School (age 7)
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http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctawclaims/page3.htm
Choctaw Claims
English names listed on the 1831 "list of claims allowed under the treaty in
Mingo 's district". No Chatah names have been listed. These are "persons
that have relinquished" (their land). "Document 512, Correspondence on
the Subject of the Emigration of Indians between the 30th November, 1831
and 27th December, 1833 With Abstracts of Expenditures by Disbursing
Agents, in the Removal and Subsistence of Indians. Furnished in answer to
a resolution of the Senate of 27th December, 1833, by the Commissary
General of Subsistence., Vol. III, printed in Washington by Duff Green, 1835"
"A list of claims allowed under the treaty in Greenwood Leflore's district."
James Shoat , (must be related to ??? Silas SHOAT)
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http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/reservation/index.htm
Reservation Roll ~ 1817
TREATY WITH THE CHEROKEE, 1817.
July 8, 1817. | 7 Stat., 156. | Proclamation, Dec. 26, 1817.
ART. 8. And to each and every head of any Indian family residing on the east
side of the Mississippi river, on the lands that are now or may hereafter be
surrendered to the United States, who may wish to become citizens of the United
States, the United States do agree to give a reservation of six hundred and
forty acres of land in a square to include their improvements which are to be as
near the centre thereof as practicable, in which they will have a life estate with a
reversion in fee simple to their children reserving to the widow her dower,
the register of whose names is to be filed in the office of the Cherokee agent,
which shall be kept open until the census is taken as stipulated in the third
article of this treaty. Provided, That if any of the heads of families, for whom
reservations may be made, should remove there from, then, in that case
the right to revert to the United States. And provided further, That the land
which may be reserved under this article, be deducted from the amount which
has been ceded under the first and second articles of this treaty.
Shoat, Silas
Chote, Isabella
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http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/settlers.php?s_family=&s_district=&s_last=Choate&s_first=
Old Settlers Roll
A listing of Cherokee still living in 1851 who were all ready residing
in Oklahoma when the main body of the cherokee arrived in the winter of
1839, as a result of the Treaty of New Echota (1835). Approximately one
third of the Cherokee people were Old Settlers and two thirds new
arrivals. The 1851 payroll lists Old Settlers (Cherokees who moved to
Indian Territory prior to December 1835) entitled to participate in a
per capita payment. There were 3,273 persons enumerated on this roll
which is arranged by Cherokee district and grouped by family. Some
persons who did not reside in the Cherokee Nation are listed as
"Non-residents." Three thousand, two hundred and seventy three Cherokees
were enrolled and received two hundred, seventy dollars and ninety five
cents. The "Old Settlers" filed a protest against the sum. The Supreme
Court decided that the original "Old Settlers" or their heirs would
receive an additional one hundred, fifty nine dollars and ten cents per
share in the 1896 "Old Settler" payment.

Family District Last First
243 Skin Bayou Choate
243 Skin Bayou Choate
243 Skin Bayou Choate
245 Skin Bayou Choate
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http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/trail_of_tears.htm
25th Congress, 3rd Session Senate: Report >From the Secretary of War
Trail of Tears Evaluation
Name Valuation
Sanders Choate 109
Silas Choate 123
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1860 census AR Co., Indian Lands, Cherokee, Sequaha
NO: M653-52 PAGE# 1189
4 428 SHOAT Silas 80 M w Farmer North Carolina
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From: "bjh durrenberger" <>
National Archives
Roll A23, 1817-1838 Cherokee Emigration Rolls and Muster Rolls
Muster rolls of the Cherokee Book 4,
Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs
Silas Choate - from Turkeytown
Sanders Choate - from Long Savannah Town (including one orphan boy Ah-na-yah-lah)

Roll A21, 1817-1819, register of Cherokee who wished to remain in the east
November 21 - # 151 - Silas Shoat in right of wife - Near the ford on
Wills Creek Cherokee and part-Cherokee persons who, under the Treaty
of 1817 and 1819 were granted land in the area around what was to become
Jackson County, Alabama.
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>http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/t/Mildred-P-Tatlor/index.html?Welcome=1026358979
The Choates of the Cherokee Nation by Mildred Taylor
Silas Choate was born about 1780 in North Carolina. In 1820 he
was married to Isabel Brown and they were living near the Tennessee River
a few miles northeast of Guntersville, Alabama. When they came to Indian
Territory the first time in 1835 they left from Willstown, Alabama. They
returned to Alabama in October 1835 and settled at Turkeytown, which is
now Gadsen, Alabama. They came back to Indian Territory in April 1838.
At that time they did settle at Greenwood Junction. By his own statement,
Silas Choate didn't have any Indian blood. Although I probably will never
be able to prove it, I believe Silas was the son of Moses Choate. Catherine
McCameron (McCammon) was the daughter of Samuel McCammon and
they also lived inthe Guntersville/Wills Valley, Alabama area. Samuel had
several children and a brother named Robert. I haven't found the names of
their parents.
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SILAS CHOATE:
1817-19 Reservations: November 21, 1818, #151, in Right of Wife, 3 in fam,
Near the ford on Will's Creek
Blood: Non-Cherokee
Emigration: as an Old Settler, returned East and then emigrated during the Removal
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Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma

The Choate Family

Silas CHOATE is one of the oldest of the Choate family that we have any history
that has lived in this country. He came with the first old settlers and only stayed a
short time and went back to the East, then returned with the Immigrants and
settled down on a place near the present site of Greenwood Junction, near the
present state line of Arkansas and Oklahoma. That was when Sanders Choate,
the father of Robert B. Choate, was about twelve years old. Silas Choate, the
grandfather, lived there until his death which occurred sometime before the
Civil War. Silas CHOATE lived in Gilmer County, Georgia. He then moved to
Forsythe County, Georgia but migrated to Indian Territory (now Oklahoma)
near Greenwood Junction in 1829.
It is believed that Silas Choate was 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Cherokee.

Sanders Choate b. ca. 1825
SANDERS CHOATE:
1851 Drennan roll: Disputed, 75
Clan: Ani'-Wa'ya = Wolf Clan (Peggy Scott)
E222 Misc Removal Records: September 04, 1851, Skin Bayou Dist,
emigrated under Treaty of 1828 & prior to Treaty of 1835, returned
East & returned West again prior to Treaty of 1846
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When Sanders Choate grew to manhood he married Miss Jane RILY (sic).
They only had one child, George Washington Choate. They lived near the
site of old Flint Court House. He later married Miss Eliza CHILDERS.
They had six children, Emma, a daughter who was married to John ADAIR
of Sallisaw, Oklahoma, the next child, Joshua, a son, Isabell, the wife of
Houston PAYNE of Ft. Smith, Arkansas, Mary Alma, a daughter who
married Dr. R. L. RYE of Ft. Smith, Arkansas, now of Porter, Oklahoma,
John C. a son who married Miss Fannie FOREMAN, Robert B. Choate,
a son was married to Miss Lydia STRIKER, a full blood Cherokee, who
was educated in the Cherokee Orphans Asylum. They are the parents of
two children, Emma E., a daughter, and Robert M., a son. (Note:
Robert B. is Robert Baxter Choate and he was quite a prominent personage
within the Cherokee Tribe in Oklahoma....he is the one who built the cabin
that someone had mentioned in an earlier )
Sanders Choate b. ca: 1790 m. Nancy Titsworth ca. 1813 probably in
Tennessee or Alabama.
Their children were: Benjamin m. Mary Suggs, Emmeline m. Samuel Slover
and Mr. Jackson, Caroline m. David Carroll Boydston, Ira Ellis (my line)
m. Margaret Susan Fort, Silas m. Mary (--?--) and Eliza/Louisa/Elizabeth
m. Jacob Dykes. Ira Ellis and Silas maybe twins as they are both enumerated
on the 1850 Travis County, Texas census with the age of 25.
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In 1818, Tah-lon-tee-skee, chief of the Western
Cherokee, requested the American Board of
Commisioners for Foreign Missions establish a
mission in the west. Subsequently, Dwight Mission,
near present Russellville AR, was established in
the spring of 1820. Tah-lon-tee-skee, having died
in the meantime, was succeeded as chief by his
brother, John Jolly, the adopted father of Sam Houston,
who had moved west in 1818.
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from the book "The Choates in America - 1896 by Jameson
"I have no definite proof of the origin of the name but it is thought by most to
be a French name and that the Choate family immigrated to Brahant,
Holland from France. Sometime in the 16th Century the family moved from
Holland into the eastern part of England, probably near the boundary in Essex
and Suffolk counties. In Holland, the family used the name VAN-CHOATE
but the Van was dropped when they came to England due to prejudice against
the Dutch immigrants. Researchers in England say that CHOATE is the usual
spelling of the name there although the name has been found spelled CHOTT
in Norfolk, CHOTE in Buckinghamshire and CHOTE in Essex County. These
Choates are referred to as the Northern branch (Mass.) of the Choates and
are not related to the Southern branch (Md.,Va., N. Car., Tn., Ky, Ill, and
points west). They were all probably connected before they immigrated but
since coming to here they have remained separate."
See: http://members.aol.com/sielorseal/Genealogy/Choat.html
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1817-19 Reservations: November 21, 1818
#151, in Right of Wife, 3 in fam, Near the ford on Will's Creek
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>................gf. Moses CHOATE ? (maybe Choate, Choat, Chote, Shoat, Shote)
>............................b. 1750 in Halifax County, Virginia d. 1810 in Mississippi Territory
>............................son of Christopher VII CHOATE and Prudence STALEY
>........................... Revolutionary War Pay Voucher #2386 North Carolina on
>.....................................6 AUG 1782
>............................SIBLINGS by Christopher VII CHOATE and Prudence STALEY
>.................................1. Squire Thomas CHOATE b: 1747 in
>.......................................Halifax County, VA(killed by indians)
>.................................2. Austin, Sr. CHOATE
>.......................................b: 1748 in Lunenburg, Pittsylvania Co, VA
>.................................3. Edward CHOATE b: 1749
>.................................4. Christopher VIII CHOATE b: 1751 in VA
>.................................5. John, Sr. CHOATE b: 1751 in Halifax Co, VA
>.................................6. David, Sr. CHOATE
>.......................................b: 1752 in Lunenburg, Pittsylvania Co, VA
>.................................7. Isaac CHOATE b: 1758 in Halifax Co, VA
>.................................8. Delilah CHOATE b: 1762 in Halifax Co, VA
>.................................9. Aaron, Sr. CHOATE b: 1765 in Halifax Co, VA
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Microcopy No. T-498 Roll 2
BURKE COUNTY, NC - CENSUS - 1790, Morgan Disrict
1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families
2nd # free white males under 16 years 3rd # free white females
and head of families 4th # all other free persons 5th # slaves
Shoat, Moses, 1,2,1,0,0
1-free white males 16 and up or head of household
2-free white males under 16
1-white females or head of families
0-all other free persons
0-slaves
Shoat, Christi, 1,0,1,0,1
Shoat, Christi jr, 1,0,1,0,1
Shoat, Saybrook, 1,0,3,0,0
Blair, Jno, 1,3,2,0,1
McCracon, Quilla, 1-2-5-0-1
Wofford, William, 2,0,2,0,0
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Listed on the Mississippi Territorial Papers, Elk River,
Sims'es Settlement September 5, 1810 (later to become
Giles County, Tennessee). Some of the signers of the petition
lived on the border of Giles County, Tennessee and Elk County
(later renamed Limestone County), Alabama and were taxed
by both counties. Some petitioners in Giles county didn't move,
the survey line moved!
Chot, Moses
Shoat, Edward Mr.
Shoat, Vantenten Mr. (Valentine?)
Shote, Aaron
Shote, John

I have "suspected" that Moses Choate may have been
married to a Mary Sanders of North Carolina and that
was how Sanders Choate was named. On the Territorial
Papers two additional signers were Jonathan Sanders and
Ruben Sanders. On the 1790 Guilford County, North Carolina
census is the family of James Sanders...with Martha, Jonathan,
David, John, Joel and Thomas....that is as far as I have gotten.
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Petition signed by the inhabitants of Giles County, Mississippi (later to become
part of eastern Tennessee) listed as signers of this petition of 1810 are:
Chot, Moses
Shoat, Vantenten (Valentine?)
Shoat, Austin
2 Shote -Kirkendall
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Sumner Co., TN Court Records:
Sam Deason vs. Moses Shoat, et al. Lawsuit
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Moses Shoat as Absm. Hooper, Levi Hand, Isaac Shoat, and John Mullherin.
This bear out the Greene Co. record of some of Christopher's heirs going to
middle TN. Moses and Isaac were no doubt brothers and sons of Christopher's.
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http://www.obcgs.com/CRTMN_1.htm
North Carolina, Buncombe County
Ordered by court that the following persons serve as Jurors at Jan. 1793.
John Box; Jos. Boydston Sr.; Jos. Stringfield Sr.; John Weaver;
Charles Gwin; Richard Blevans; Moses Choate
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1790 Burke Co., NC Census:
Moses with 1 m. over 16, 2 m. under 16 & 1 female
1794 Buncombe Co., NC -
Moses served as Juror with Austin Shoat
1799 Knox Co., TN -
Moses, Thomas, Christopher, John, Austin Sr., & Jr., Choate
1800 Knox Co., TN -
Moses listed as Tax Delinquient
1810 Mississippi Territory -
Moses, Aaron, Valentine, John & Edward Choate
1820 Monroe Co., MS Census -
Moses, & David Choate
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~polkcountytxconnections/HicksCem.html
Notes: William C. Hicks Family came from Autauga County,
Alabama in 1839 to the northern division of Liberty County,
Republic of Texas. On Sept. 5, 1840 Mr. Hicks purchased
2,214 acres on Long King Creek from Moses Choate for
$2,777.50 and 1,107 acres from John D. Burks. The deeds
were put on record in Liberty County and in 1846 when
Polk County was created it became the first deed on record,
Deed Book "A", #1. This property was bordered on the south
by land owned by Moses Choate and on the north by land
owned by Barnet Hardin, father of John Wesley Hardin, gunfighter.
The Hicks, Kales, and Hardin families lived near each other.





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