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From: "Ida Lancaster" <>
Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Enrollment Card?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:54:11 -0600
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You have to be a parent or a grandparent of the person you are trying to get
a birth certificate for. I had a friend that went to City Hall here in
Amarillo, Texas and tried to get a birth certificate for her neice. They
would not make her a copy. She had to drive across town & load up her 90
year old mother (grand mother of the neice) and drag a wheel chair up a
bunch of steps. She got the birth certificate. The reason-----if a wet
back can get hold of a birth certificate then they have it made. They can
get Soc. Sec. and the whole 9 yards. Ida

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donnie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Enrollment Card?


> I read all of this good information about folks who have found this and
that
> and I'm still having problems receiving copies of birth certificates from
> the great state of Texas.
>
> I'm native (Texan), btw.
>
> Happy Valentine's Day to all us Choctaws.
>
> Donnie Garland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lola Crane [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:40 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Enrollment Card?
>
>
> I have received several family packets through Oklahoma Historical Society
> and paid $10.00 for each family packet. One family enrollment sheet showed
> my great grandfather's younger sister, unwed, had given birth to a
daughter
> and the probable father was listed. It told of
> her mother doing midwife duty with the births of some of the
grandchildren.
> It showed their father as a white man, intermarried with a Choctaw Indian
> woman and it also showed the name of his father who (I still haven't
found),
> no name for his mother: for their mother who
> was Choctaw, it gave her parents names and that they were deceased. There
> was other information that has become important as I go along with this
> family to they were well worth while.
>
> All family packets are different. Depends on how much the people giving
the
> information gave the interviewer (some of the people gave as little
> information as possible to complete the enrollment for many were against
the
> land being divided in this manner); how well the
> interviewer understood what they were saying; how tired everyone was that
> day--many many things came into play. Remember that the average person
> living in Indian Territory was pretty much content with the way things
were
> and wanted to continue on as they were doing. I
> happen to agree with them on this. Because of this resentment, many many
> people gave the bare information they could and still be registered.
> There were specific questions to be filled out, answered : Age at time
sheet
> was done; head of house; wife, children, other people living in the
> household and their relation to the head of house; name of parents and if
> the parents were alive or had died; place of births;
> whether Choctaw and how much. As the people in the chart got married,
etc.,
> the records were updated showing the new wife, husband, children. These
> updates were written in later in the lower parts of the sheet, as they
> happened, and this gives us a lot more avenues to try
> and find other information.
>
> As a general rule that I have run across, you are lucky indeed to have the
> specific questions answered totally. I have never found it to be so on
any
> of the packets I have purchased. They are well worth the $10.00 or
whatever
> the present cost. I refer to those packets
> often for anything I might have missed or not understood previously.
> L.
>
> wrote:
>
> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
> >
> > Surnames: BOND
> > Classification: Query
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1054
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > I found my people on the Final Roll of the Five Civilized Tribes at the
> NARA site. They are listed as Choctaw. Then it says I can send for a copy
> of the enrollment card. Can anyone tell me what information I will find
on
> that card? Will it have parents, dates, etc?
>
>
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