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From: "Bunnie German" <>
Subject: Re: [CLAN-MACKENZIE] Scottish ancestors
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:29:02 -0600
In-Reply-To: <E1Hdm07-0005Tu-Vx@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Hi John Kenneth!

I don't understand how you know that your grandfather was the first and last
MacKenzie to come over from Great Britain. Am new at this research thing, so
please help. I am having a really hard time finding my last known ancestor,
Daniel MacKenzie's father. He was born abt 1756, don't know where. Marrried
Rebecca, ?. Lived in SC. Died in SC abt 1833. Due to his birthdate, believe
either he or his father to be the immigrant. Many are looking for his line.
Any suggestions?

Thanks.



>From: "John K. Mackenzie" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [CLAN-MACKENZIE] Scottish ancestors
>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:37:26 -0500
>
>Hello Clan members: My family has been carefully tracking our branch
>of the Mackenzie's for many years, and we have quite a collection of
>ancestral references and relationships.
>
>Records suggest our original homestead was
><http://www.eileandonancastle.com/>Eilean Donan which (as many of you
>know) was rediscovered for TV commercials and Sean Connery films. My
>grandfather, John Kenneth Mackenzie, II, was the first (and last)
>Mackenzie to come over from Great Britain -- only to be massacred by
>Yaqui Indians in Sonora, Mexico. A memorial web page can be found at
>http://www.thewritingworks.com/yaqui.html
>
>Thanks to all for their good work and e-mails,
>
>John Kenneth Mackenzie, III
>
>At 04:25 AM 4/17/2007, you wrote:
> >Good morning Pierre
> >
> >I am not a professional genealogist but my sister and I have spent a
> >considerable amount of time doing our own research for our maternal
> >mackenzies. I met Alistair when the library first set up his post in the
> >1990s and I would say that you have made a good decision in going to
> >Alistair at the Inverness library and if you have not already done so,
>you
> >should make an appointment with him for 25th to save you time waiting as
>he
> >is always busy. He is a very quietly spoken man and a typically
>Highland,
> >slow speaker so you have to listen hard and be patient !!
> >
> >I know I have had correspondence with you in the past so you may know my
>own
> >roots are on the West Coast on the peninsula of Scorraig and at Ullapool.
> >There is a tremendous amount of information at the museum in Ullapool and
> >one of my husband's cousins, Chrissie MacIver has been very much involved
> >with genealogy in the past although she is not so active now. The CMS
> >Scotland & UK president last year was Ian Blake and he lives at
>Aultigrishan
> >close to Ullapool. He is not as fortunate as you and cannot trace his
> >maternal mackenzies as far back as yourself. In fact the majority of
>people
> >can only trace back to beginning of the 1800's as the records were lost
>in
> >the various distruptions in the church in the Highlands. However, if
>the
> >family were involved with the serving regiments of the time there is a
> >possibility you may find something about them in the Highland Regiment
> >Records. If the family were amongst those directly descended from the
> >Gairloch mackenzies (Hector Roy was the brother of Sir Kenneth Mackenzie
> >who died in 1492) then you may find a connection through the Findon
>Tables
> >but these tables usually only recorded those of some note and not always
> >included people who had gone abroad. Also unless females married a "man
>of
> >substance" then they were just shown after the sons as "and 2/3/4
>daughters"
> >with no further family.
> >
> >When researching you do have to be careful about towns and counties.
> >Inverness was a small settlement way back to the Iron Age but
> >Inverness-shire is a huge county, very sparcely populated even by today's
> >standards and is split into Parishes according to the church. If the
> >person was not born in Inverness town then you need to discover the
>Parish
> >they were born in to be sure you have the right Murdoch. You may find
>two
> >Murdoch's in one family as it was common to rename a new child with the
>same
> >name as a older child who may have died, in order to keep the family name
> >structure of the day. (When I was researching I knew that if a James
> >appeared in the children, that was not likely to be the right family as
>our
> >mackienzies were all Alexanders, Murdochs, Hectors, Rodericks or Johns).
> >
> >You should also see if you could find out where there would have been a
> >requirement for coopers. Whisky was produced all over the Highlands,
>many
> >small illicit stills under the croft house floor or hidden in the woods
>but
> >there were several distilleries in Inverness. (Everything just about
>owned
> >by Diageo these days!) Mining for ore went on in the West Coast as well.
> >However, I do not know too much about the history of whisky production
>but
> >it may be worth doing some research on that before you come. The only
> >working cooperage is in Speyside where they demonstrate the making of
> >barrels. The website is www.speysidecooperage.co.uk/ in case you are
> >interested in going there.
> >
> >You may have heard of Greame Mackenzie who is our Genealogist. He may
>well
> >receive the enquires from Rootsweb but just in case he does not, I will
>copy
> >your email to him.
> >
> >In the meantime, my address is 11 Heatherley Crescent, Inverness, IV2
>4AW,
> >phone in UK 01463 231388, email so if you
> >would like to contact me further, please do.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Philippa
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
> >[mailto:] On Behalf Of Pierre McKenzie
> >Sent: 14 April 2007 22:24
> >To:
> >Subject: [CLAN-MACKENZIE] Search for my scotish ancestors
> >
> >
> >In less than 2 weeks from now, with two of my cousins, I will be in
> >Inverness to do some genealogical research to try to find traces of my
> >ancestors in Scotland.
> >
> >First, we will do our research with the little information that I have
>and
> >with the help of specialists. Our ancestor's name is Murdoch McKenzie.
> >According to two documents, he was from Inverness (was it
>Invernesshire?).
> >He was born around 1747. His parents were Murdoch McKenzie and Katherine
>(I
> >don't have her surname). He arrived in Quebec before 1774. Here in
>Quebec,
> >he was a master cooper. This means that he was also a cooper in
>Inverness.
> >
> >Secondly, I will use the results of the Y DNA project to go any further
>in
> >my research. We are now 10 persons that have almost the same Y DNA
>markers
> >(less than 4 markers distant over 37). This means that we should all have
>a
> >common ancestor between 300 to 500 years ago. In the last 2 months, I
>have
> >been in contact with many of them to see if anyone would have a paper
>trail
> >that could help. No one have a paper trail that goes far enough (between
>300
> >and 500 years) to show that common ancestor. But, there are trends.
> >According to a specialist and to some family information, we could all be
> >descendant of Hector Roy MacKenzie, 1st of Gairloch (died c1528). This
>has
> >to be proved. All this information is quite exiting and we will try to
>find
> >more while in Scotland.
> >
> >We will first meet with Alistair Macleod from the Highland Council
>Genealogy
> >Service at the Inverness Library on 25th April then we will go to the
> >Ullappol Museum where the wife of one of our group member is the
>chairperson
> >of the Museum. Do you think that we should go elsewhere in addition to
>the
> >Inverness Library and the Ullapool Museum to do our research? Some
>members
> >of our group went to Edinburgh and did not find much.
> >
> >To learn more on the Clan MacKenzie, we will visit the Castle Leod in
> >Strathpeffer and the Eilean Donan Castle. Do you think that we should
>visit
> >other places that are related to the Clan MacKenzie?
> >
> >We will take a lot of pictures and videos that I will put on the Internet
>so
> >that you can see them.
> >
> >If you have any idea that could help us in our research while in
>Scotland,
> >it would be appreciated.
> >
> >Best regards!
> >
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