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Subject: A few odd thoughts of Cobbs
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:59:24 -0600
Spending a little time studying the Cobbs in my database and found my
self wondering about the following:
Joseph Cobb, son of Richard Cobb and Sybil Sheetz , where was he born? I
have England, but records for Richard show he was born in Aberdeen,
Scotland. If he was really Scottish as opposed to English and merely
born in Scotland, then Joseph is Scottish.
Irvin S. Cobb in his book, Exit Laughing, connects his line to Gideon
Cobb who m. a Dyer. This line goes back to Henry who m. Patience Hurst.
This Henry was born in England. So Irvin's claim that his lineage was
Scottish was in error unless there is some way to connect Henry with
Seems that in nearly all family lineages there were "three brothers" who
immigrated....Well, mention has been made that Henry came to VA with his
two brothers and moved up the coast to MA. Who were his brothers? I
have a brother for him named Benjamin who appears to have died in
England. So who were the others? If Henry was born in 1596 and was son
of Henry Cobb and Pleasant Redwood, then Joseph could not have been his
brother unless they had the same father. Now Joseph was b. ca 1588 and
would easily fit into the family with Henry if they had the same father.
But how would one figure it out? There was mention in other records of
the other brothers being John and James and that there were many
descendants in VA.
Now Henry and Patience named sons, John, James, Henry, Eleazer, GErshom
and sons by Sarah Hinkley were: SAmuel, Jonathan....so Henry could have
had brothers named John and James. Okay, where are they living in the
same time frame?
Think about this: Richard Cobbe, who was recorded in the records as a
student at Oxford, would have been born about 1555 and could be the same
Richard that m. Sybl Sheetz, for whom there were no records of a marriage
in Scotland in 1576...just quoting
In Joseph Foster's Alumni Oxonienses, 1500-1714 there are twenty Cobb,
Cobbs, Cobbe, Cobbes Alumni. But the only Richard Cobb of the right date
would appear to be: Cobbe, Richard, scholar Corpus Christi, 1572 BA: 1575
MA: fellow 1579; BD 1587; licensed to preach 1597; died 1597
A reputable London genealogist was asked to locate and translate the will
of the subject Richard Cobbe. Other findings of the London genealogist
regarding Richard Cobb's service with "Hwenry Champion's troop of a
hundred gentlemen" fighting for the Protestant cause on the continent
were: Calender of Patent Rolls 1563-66. In a grant of incorporation of
1564 to the Company of Merchant Adventurers for service to the Queen,
there is mention of a Richard Champyon, but no Cobbs. 1572-75, No Hnery
Champion mentioned, and the Cobbs mentioned wer from Norfolk and Suffolk
eng. families. Calender of State Papers. Searched 1566-74, there was a
Henry Champernowne who sent accounts of skirmishes and battles on the
continent. No Cobbs were mentioned. Report from Central Bureau Voor
Genealogie, The Hague, Netherlands. Checked the registers of the Old
Church in Amsterdam for the period 1565-1578. No marriage of a Richard
or John Cobb to a Sybil Sheets."
If one assumes that this Richard would have been born abt 1555 then he
could be a brother of Henry who m Pleasant Redwood and who was (according
to the info that I have, none of which have I personally documented) the
father of Henry the elder who m. Patience Hurst. The other children of
Richard, gfather of Henry the elder are:
Alexander, Richard, William, Nicholas, Mary, Margeret, Elizabeth,
Thomasine and Susanna.
Joseph who m E. Flinton named a son Nicholas. Henry the elder had a
gggrandson named Nicholas.....John Cobb, immigrant to Taunton, MA was a
grandson of Nicholas Cobb. There were some Nicholas' in Ambrose's line.
Just curious about where these people connect if they do at all.
Now Henry Cobb, the elder appears to connect back to John Cobb of Cobbs
Ct, 1300. So does the Ambrose line, but I can't find a way to connect
Joseph Cobb of Isle of Wight to this line.
Anyone have any ideas?
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