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From: "L Fisher" <>
Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:46:01 +0900
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You're welcome, Danny. I wish it was more.

best wishes
Lorraine


----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Lawrence" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups


> Thank you for such a good lead Lorraine.
> Elizabeth's age corresponds well with the rounded-down 65 for Elizabeth
> Lawrence in 1841 and her two (known) children were named Ann and John. But
> (there's always a but isn't there!) I can't see a link yet between the
> Martin Haly who was the head of the household in 1841 (born c.1806) and
> Elizabeth. Perhaps he was a nephew. Anyway, it is certainly a most
> promising
> lead to follow up. Thank you so much.
> Regards
> Danny
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of L Fisher
> Sent: 04 June 2007 11:18
> To:
> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups
>
> Hello again, Danny,
> Lostwithiel is only 1.4 miles from St Winnows
> and there one finds Elizabeth Haly chr 1773, d/o John and Elizabeth.
> They also had Philippa 1768, Ann 1770, John 1776, Mary 1779, and William
> 1781.
> Did your Elizabeth have children? With any luck the names may match up.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> best wishes
> Lorraine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danny Lawrence" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups
>
>
>> Hello Lorraine
>> The Elizabeth I'm looking for was married. She was born Elizabeth Haley
>> and
>> described as a sojourner when she married John Lawrence in nearby
>> Callington
>> in 1794. I've not been able to establish anything about her origins but a
>> correspondent recently came up with an Elizabeth Lawrence living with a
>> family of Haleys in St Winnows in 1841. Naturally, my hope is that this
>> is
>> not just a coincidence but as the 1841 census does not record place of
>> birth, exact age or relationships it's no more than a tantalising clue at
>> this stage. I tried to find what happened to Elizabeth by searching Free
>> BMD
>> and the closest entry was the 1848 death of an Elizabeth Jane Lawrence in
>> St
>> Germans. Although my Elizabeth was only described as plain Elizabeth on
>> her
>> marriage, I know the workhouse/hospital for Callington was in St Germans
>> so
>> it seemed worth following up - especially as Elizabeth's husband probably
>> died in 1849.
>> I will send for the death certificate but from the information you've
>> already given me I suspect it will only lead to disappointment!
>> Many thanks for your efforts on my behalf Lorraine.
>> Regards
>> Danny
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of L Fisher
>> Sent: 04 June 2007 02:33
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups
>>
>> Hello Danny,
>> whilst I dont have access to the actual parish records, I have been
>> poking
>> around and found a few interesting things in the IGI.
>>
>> The 1841 census has a Richard Lawrence / Laurence age abt 60, with wife
>> Elizabeth age abt 55, living at Saltash. This Elizabeth could be
>> the one who died in 1867, as the death entry in Ancestry.com says she was
>> born abt 1782.
>>
>> The IGI has a Richard, christened c1794, son of Francis and Mary.
>> (Francis married Mary Hunt in 1793.)
>> Francis re-married in 1796, a Jenifer Short, and they had a daughter
>> Elizabeth, christened 1801.
>>
>> Since you are enquiring about two Elizabeths, I'm assuming that they are
>> probably connected, so I wonder if this could be the connection.
>>
>> Do you know if either or both Elizabeths were married and/or had
>> children?
>>
>> FreeBMD has the death of Elizabeth Jane and you may have to send for the
>> cerificate to really verify any information.
>>
>> Sorry I cant make it easy.
>>
>> best wishes
>> Lorraine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Danny Lawrence" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-ANCESTORS] St Germans and Lizard look-ups
>>
>>
>>> Hello Lorraine
>>> May I take up your offer to do lookups in the St Germans records. I
>>> would
>>> be
>>> interested to know if the deaths of Elizabeth Jane Lawrence 1848 and
>>> Elizabeth Lawrence 1867 are recorded in the parish register and if so,
>>> precisely what is recorded for them. If you can manage that I would be
>>> most
>>> grateful.
>>> Whether you are able to do it or not, thank you for the general and
>>> generous
>>> offer.
>>> Regards
>>> Danny Lawrence
>>>
>>>
>>>
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