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From: "Mick Underhill" <>
Subject: Re: [CON] Giles Family
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:22:57 +0100
References: <000801c107b2$1f6a0720$594318d4@default>


John and Samantha,

I had assumed the name to be Cargenven (or Curgenven) not Gurgenven, of
which there were many from Veryan...as you know a stones throw from
Philleigh. My guess was that Mary Ann was cristened Veryan 24 Apr 1831.

In the 1851 Census Samuel is living with his sister in law Mary (nee
Richards) widow of Richard Jewell

Mick
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Coles" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CON] Giles Family


> Hi Samantha,
> I've tried to narrow down where your family came from because I have never
> seen the surname GURGENVEN before... in fact, the online IGI shows no Mary
> Gurgenven born anywhere in England at any time! So I'll come back that in
a
> moment. Perhaps other listers can help you here.
>
> Samuel JEWELL christened 30/12/1827 at Philliegh, which is a tiny hamlet
and
> parish on the Roseland Peninsula of Cornwall, just across the River Fal
from
> Falmouth, which was the main shipping port for Cornwall. There is a
> connection across the river by the King Harry Ferry.
>
> His parents were William and Grace Jewell, for whom I can find no
marriage,
> but William looks as if he may have been born at nearby Probus, about 6
> miles (10km) to the north in 1783. This would need checking out, but if
so,
> the JEWELL / JUELL line goes back at Probus to around the 1670's.
>
> The first child born to William and Grace was Joseph, christened in 1813
at
> Philleigh.
>
> Samuel JEWELL married Mary Ann GURGENVEN at Philleigh on 17 April 1852,
and
> just three months later, they christened their first child Mary Ann on 18
> July 1852 (oops!!!).
>
> Since this looks like a shotgumn wedding, and there appears to be no
record
> of Mary Ann GURGENVEN, I am strongly inclined to suggest that she had come
> in to Falmouth by ship - possibly from a Scandinavian country, because it
is
> a Scandinavian sounding name, and ships from that area brought in a lot of
> timber for the mines at that period.
>
> That is as much as I can give you... at least it looks like the right area
> to search, and it looks like they had more children than you thought.
>
> Only record I could find for Richard GILES was a christening at Ludgvan
> (near Helston) on 19 Jan 1823, parents Richard and Jane, but I found no
> marriage. The christening is a year after the birth date you give but this
> is not unusual.
>
> Best wishes,
> John Coles,
> in Launceston, the Historic Capital of Cornwall.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samantha Giles-Elkin <>
> To: <>
> Date: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:05 PM
> Subject: [CON] Giles Family
>
>
> >Hello to all,
> >I am looking for information regarding my ggg grandfather Richard Giles
> >b1822,d1869, married Elizabeth Pryer,or, information on Samuel Jewell
> >b30/12/1827 d07/11/1889 from Cornwell married Mary Anne Curgenven from
> >Cornwell not sure on her birth date but died on 11/10/1890 they had one
> >daughter Susan Jewell b 29/04/1861 d 30/06/1925 and she married William
> >Charles Giles b 08/02/1959 d 26/11/1907. If anyone has any information
> >regarding my family it would be most appreicated.
> >
> >Regards
> >Tracey Giles
> >Melbourne Australia
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