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From: "WindWalker" <> (by way of "List Manager, Joe Harrington" <>)
Subject: Re: [COUCH] American Indian Couch family
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:29:28 -0400


another varition is Couche

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On 7/29/02 at 11:41 PM Connie Epps Bond wrote:

>When I first started my geneology, I thought the Crouch name was a mis
>reading of the Couch name. But I now have both of those names in Georgia.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Danny Couch" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [COUCH] American Indian Couch family
>
>
>> Hi Bellinda,
>>
>> There are two theories on Couch/Crouch. The first is that there is a
>> connection based on illiteracy and phonetics. The Crouch's in
>northeastern
>> Tennessee were descended from a William Couch/Coutch/Crouch whose living
>> children exhausted all spellings of his surname in a futile attempt to
>> collect his Revolutionary War pension in 1836. That line, for the most
>> part, goes by Crouch to this day. The famous music producer in
>Nashville,
>> whose last name is Crouch (his first name escapes me right now...) is
>from
>> that line Also, some Couch researchers speculate that Couch was often
>> pronounced Crouch, like Chicargo for Chicago and stuck.
>> The second theory is that there is no connection whatsoever. In
>regard
>> your Crouch's, that may be the case. Although there were many Couch's
>in
>> North Carolina in the 1700's and 1800's, there were none in Richmond
>County
>> area, which borders the South Carolina line. Richmond County was cut
>from
>> Anson County in 1779. Richmond and Anson are heavily Scotch-Irish, and
>the
>> surnames Adair and McSpadden/McFadden are numerous there. The Couch's
>are
>> almost exclusively English. Hope this helps.
>> P. S. is your Barnett line any connection to the Barnetts on the
>North
>> Carolina Outer Banks/ Dare, Hyde or Carteret Counties? Let me know.
>Danny
>> Couch
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: July 29, 2002 1:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [COUCH] American Indian Couch family
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Regarding your messages below I have a couple of questions. Do you
>know
>> if
>> > your COUCH family is ever thought to have been spelled with an R as in
>> > CROUCH?
>> >
>> > I descend from a Samuel CROUCH in Richmond County, North Carolina who
>was
>> > born in abt. 1780 and his 2 wives were named Sarah and Abigail through
>> Sarah
>> > and Samuel CROUCH's daughter, Susan CROUCH, born: abt. 1815 in Richmond
>> > County, North Carolina, who married probably as the 2nd wife of John M.
>> > SLAUGHTER, born: abt. 1795 in Richmond County, North Carolina, son of
>> Mary
>> > McDONALD and husband, (Rev.) Owen (2) SLAUGHTER, son of Owen (1)
>SLAUGHTER
>> > and wife, Mary Elizabeth BOLTON, born: abt. 1741 in Nansemond Co., VA.
>> >
>> > In addition, the name ADAIR married into the LIGHTFOOT family of Nancy
>> > LIGHTFOOT and her sister, Dorcas LIGHTFOOT, who married DUNCAN and
>ADAIR
>> men
>> > if my memory is serving me correctly. This Cherokee LIGHTFOOT family
>is
>> said
>> > to have been descended from a (Captain) or (Chief) John LIGHTFOOT,
>> depending
>> > on whose information that you read,) and while many say that the family
>> was
>> > of 100% Cherokee lineage it appears most probable that this John
>LIGHTFOOT
>> > could have been a descendant of the (Captain) John LIGHTFOOT who
>> immigrated
>> > from England in abt. 1670 along with his brother, Philip LIGHTFOOT, who
>> > became known as (Colonel) Philip LIGHTFOOT, to Virginia. They were
>sons
>> of
>> > John LIGHTFOOT and wife, Elizabeth PHILLIPS, of London, England.
>> (Captain)
>> > John LIGHTFOOT was a member of the Royal Navy as a sea Captain and
>after
>> > starting at least one family in Virginia he died somewhere in or near
>> > Surinam(e) in the West Indies in the Caribbean.
>> >
>> > I don't know if your COUCH and ADAIR people in any way connect with
>this
>> > CROUCH and ADAIR/DUNCAN/LIGHTFOOT information but it might assist you.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Bellinda Myrick - Barnett
>> >
>> > In a message dated 7/29/2002 11:29:56 AM Central Daylight Time,
>> > writes:
>> >
>> >
>> > > Subj:Re: [COUCH] American Indian Couch family
>> > > Date:7/29/2002 11:29:56 AM Central Daylight Time
>> > > From:<A
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>> > > Reply-to:<A
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>> > > Sent from the Internet
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Alfred Fatica,
>> > >
>> > > I see from my book that you are the person who provided me with the
>> > > information on T. Samuel Couch and Nancy Ellen Adair and their
>daughter
>> > > Sarah Ellen Couch and Sara's son William Walker Milam.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks. For a bit I thought I had discoverd a brand new source of
>Couch
>> > > information. Do you now have the children of Wlliam Walker Milam and
>> Maude
>> > > Irene McSpaddenr's two children?
>> > >
>> > > Bob Couch
>> > > ----------
>> > > >From: "Alfred Fatica" <>
>> > > >To:
>> > > >Subject: [COUCH] American Indian Couch family
>> > > >Date: Sun, Aug 5, 2001, 6:18 PM
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > >I know of at least one Couch family of Cherokee blood. Samuel
>Mitchell
>> > > >Couch, son of John Couch and Mary "Polly" George, married a mixed
>blood
>> > > >Cherokee named Nancy Ellen Adair. Nancy was the daughter of
>Benjamin
>> > > >Franklin Adair and a mixed blood Cherokee named Eliza Martin, who
>was
>> the
>> > > >daughter of Judge John Martin, a famous Cherokee.
>> > > >This branch of the Couch family as part of the early Cherokee
>settlers
>> who
>> > >
>> > > >came west before the Trail of Tears. I have a listing of some of
>the
>> > > >Rolls, indicating Indian blood. If anyone has specific names, I
>would
>> be
>> > > >happy to look them up.
>> >
>>
>>

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