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From: "Tracy Polyak" <>
Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Havre
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:08:03 -0700
References: <20000411133107.45628.qmail@hotmail.com>


Your best bet is to find other male family members that were
naturalized. Alternatively, you can look at the available
port indexes, including Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia,
Galveston, New Orleans, etc.. However, during the period in
which your grandfather arrived, New York was by far the
largest port, and it is not indexed for this time period.

Tracy

P.S. Please note my new e-mail address:

----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Havre


> Does anyone have a read-able census of the column under
"citizen" columns
> 13,14, and 15. I am un-able to read mine as the words are
blurred bad. Also,
> what would the proceedures be for someone who NEVER became
a citizen? My gr
> grandfather was 64 in 1920, and it says AL in column 14.
In column 13, it
> says 1892, but I can't read above it to figure out" what"
he did in 1892
> Thanks for any comments Pat
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary H Smith <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Havre
>
>
> > No!
> > you are correct about the women and the applic. for
citiz. in US. If
> > husband received citizenship. I do have copy of
applic. for my
> > grandmother, it is dated 1936. I was unable to locate
actually citiz.
> > papers, but family said she did obtain.
> > I don't have an answer to your comment though I know I
have read the NARA
> > rulings on such.
> > Mary Smith
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 2:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Havre
> >
> >
> > > I would like to comment on the Nat. of your
grandmother. I was told that
> > > women did not get nat. that they automatically were
along with any minor
> > > children. Men only did. Was I given wrong
information?????
> > > pat
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mary H Smith <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Havre
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have read intently the comments re. LaHavre,
France as a port for
> the
> > > folks leaving Croatia, Hungary, and Slovonia. I
think I would like to
> > add
> > > my comments and also submit my grandmother's name for
Frank to look up
> on
> > > the migration list he has for La Havre, France.
> > > > My maternal grandmother left thru the Port of La
Havre, France. She
> > was
> > > a mere 18 year old at the tiime. She took the train
to France where she
> > > boarded the ship for the USA. She said that it was
cheaper, more
> direct,
> > > and less time to cross the ocean, to go thru that
port rather than go
> to
> > > Fiume.(I found that very interesting!)
> > > > All four of my grandparents came from different
ports, all from the
> > > Croatia, Hungary and Slavonia area. None came thru
Fuime which seemed
> to
> > > me to be much more convenient and would not be so far
to travel. (I am
> > not
> > > sure why, except that from what my grandmother told
me, it may have been
> > > more direct ship, cheaper at the time, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > I would like to submit to Frank Kurchina, If he
could look up my
> > > paternal grandmother, I have been unable to locate
the immigration
> > records,
> > > thru the US records, On her petition for
Naturalization that I did find
> > in
> > > the local Court Records.. She indicates she emigr.
thru. Antwerp Belgium
> > > (unknown ship) arrived N.Y. Feb 15, 1906. She is not
listed on any
> ship
> > > from Antwerp, Belgium on or near the date of arrival
to NY. I would
> > like
> > > to check for La Havre, France, if possibly the origin
of ship may have
> > been
> > > Antwerp, but it also may have stopped in La Havre in
route.
> > > (Possibility?.... I know I'm grasping for a straw in
haystack, but I am
> > > trying every possibility.) Aloysia Gryorcic, b.
June 21, 1887 in
> > > Trebeven, Yugoslavia. (mar. record - Feb
26,1906--says b. Croatia)
> > > >
> > > > Lastly I would like to Thank Frank for all his
useful information, his
> > > comments and helps have been something that I keep for
further reference
> > and
> > > I believe that he needs to be thanked for his fine
work.
> > > > Mary H. Smith
> > > > Auburn, Washington
> >
> >
> >
>
> ______________________________

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