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From: "Patty Milich" <>
Subject: Re: [CROATIA] BIANCHI/BJELE/BIELE/BEAL FROM CAVTAT, CROATIA
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:40:54 -0700
In-Reply-To: <597.34fd95f.321cc357@aol.com>


My surnames are:
Milic
Car
Gled

Not all of them stayed in Cavtat. They were from other villages around the
area, too.

Don't loose hope on the foreign language. You need a word list to work
with. See
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/rg/frameset_rhelps.asp?Page=./researc
h/type/Word_List.asp to find the languages that you need, even though they
don't have Croatian. You will find Italian and Latin which will help.

Good luck and stick with it.

Patty

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [CROATIA] BIANCHI/BJELE/BIELE/BEAL FROM CAVTAT, CROATIA


Patty,

Do you have family in Cavtat? If we want to share other surnames, perhaps
we can write off list? Thank you for writing. I wish I could sit by the
side of someone who has used the films. It will be a while before I can
order them again and I will also wait until my return from Cavtat to see
what I need at that point. Thank you, Denise



In a message dated 8/22/2006 11:03:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
writes:

I have done a fair amount of researching the films available for Cavtat and
have seen this surname several times (though it doesn't relate to my
lines).
I understood that Ragusavecchia is the old name for Dubrovnik.

Patty

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:]
On Behalf Of Robert Jerin
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:28 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [CROATIA] BIANCHI/BJELE/BIELE/BEAL FROM CAVTAT, CROATIA

Denise,

His ability to speak Italian should be no surprise, have you not reviewed
the parish records which are available from the LDS Family History Center
near you? Those church records are in Italian, Latin and Croatian for the
Cavtat Roman Catholic Church.

The old Italian name for Cavtat was Ragusavecchia, which appears on the
1910 Austrian miltary maps which are found online (also the Croatian name
Cavtat appears next to the Italian name.

Robert

wrote:
The more I am interviewing family here in California about my great
grandfather from Cavtat, Croatia, the more I am hearing about him speaking
fluent Italian. He was born in Cavtat October 5, 1875 and came to America
at about age 16. His original Croatian name was Bjele, later changed to the
Italalianicized Bianchi while still living in Croatia. When he came to the
US, he changed it to Biele and later his Portuguese wife from the Azores
Americanized it to Beal! Can someone please comment on the fact that he
spoke fluent Italian?
Thank you, Denise Jackson
(off to visit my roots for the month of September in Cavtat!)

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