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From: "Benjamin Crocker" <>
Subject: RE: [CROCKER-L] Crocker Y-DNA study
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:51:49 -0500
In-Reply-To: <1110436712.7059.14.camel@localhost>


For those interested in participating in the Y DNA project, go to
www.dnaheritage.com , click on "Surname Projects" in the left column, then
use the search engine on the right column to look up "Crocker".
Instructions for joining follow. The website also provides a lot of general
information about genetic surname studies, and how they can be helpful in
establishing connections among surname branches. I believe the Crocker
project coordinator (Michael Crocker) is from England (but have not
verified). Nonetheless, the more branch participants the better. So far
there are 3 (three) of us signed up.

All the best,
Ben.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Crocker [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:39 AM
To: Benjamin Crocker
Subject: Re: [CROCKER-L] Crocker Y-DNA study

Interesting. What expense, bother, or whatever (other than mailing a
cotton swab to someone)?

I think I would be willing to participate. Do you only need one
representative of a particular group or are more the merrier?

Stay in touch.

Dean Crocker
-- not the one that runs this list but the one originally from the
family in Texas that --thus far-- doesn't seem to related to anyone
else! Grrrr...
:-)

On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:47 -0500, Benjamin Crocker wrote:
> To any who may be interested:
>
>
>
> I recently discovered that a Mr. Michael Crocker has recently begun to
> coordinate a Crocker surname Y-DNA (genetic) study via DNA Heritage. For
> those who may not be familiar with these types of studies, they
essentially
> examine the Y chromosome of living male descendants of a particular
surname
> (spelling variations accepted!) to determine the likelihood of a genetic
> link (common ancestor). A swab from the inside of the cheek is sent for
DNA
> analysis, and the results of participants are compared to establish
genetic
> links and probably common ancestors.
>
>
>
> I for one, am very interested to hear of a Crocker genetic study starting
> up! I see this as having the possibility of breaking a few different
brick
> walls in the Crocker genealogy research on both sides of the Atlantic.
> There are at least 4 different early Crocker/Crooker branches in America:
> William Crocker of Barnstable, MA (arrive 1630's), Anthony Crocker of Isle
> of Wight, Virginia (arrived circa mid/late 1600's), Francis Crooker of
> Scituate and Marshfield, MA (arrived 1640's), and Thomas Crocker of New
> London, CT arrived 1700's. To date, I've found nothing that definitively
> links any of these branches.
>
>
>
> It has been suggested that the Barnstable branch originated from Devon.
> This is a theory that I and a few others have heavily researched over the
> last 7-8 years or more, without any real breakthrough. What seems to be
> convincing, however, is that this branch probably does NOT descend from
the
> Lyneham Crocker/Croker branch in Yealmpton, Devon (from which many if not
> most of the Irish Crokers/Crockers descend), at least based on an
exhaustive
> examination of that line. We cannot rule it out entirely, however. Some
of
> the younger sons of the earlier generations of that branch could possibly
> have been our ancestors.
>
>
>
> Interestingly, there was another branch of Crockers (in existence at least
> since the 1400's), in Yealmpton and Modbury, Devon, around the time
William
> Crocker and his brother, John, emigrated to Scituate, MA in 1634 (later
> settling in Barnstable). It is unclear if they were a very early offshoot
> from the Lyneham branch. They were not of the long established nobility
> (they did, however, eventually marry into it), but were wealthy and
> well-placed enough to have potentially produced our two immigrant
ancestral
> brothers. Yet, again, no definitive proof has emerged to make this
> English/American link.
>
>
>
> A Y chromosome surname study from male descendants from any/all of these
> American/English branches could be incredibly useful in determining the
> existence of a common genetic link and, therefore, help many of us to
"zero
> in" on genealogical links, be they more recent in America, or earlier to
an
> English line. Obviously, the more people enlisted, the better the
analysis
> of connections.
>
>
>
> It would be great to enlist descendants from
Devon/Dorset/Somerset/Cornwall
> Crocker/Croker branches, as well as those from Ireland, and the American
> branches.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts/takers?
>
>
>
> Ben Crocker
>
>
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