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From: W&JG Knoche <>
Subject: Re: CoTipperary-D Digest V02 #12
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:30:38 +1300
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> CoTipperary-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 12
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 Shell Guide to Ireland - Introduct ["Ed Madden" <]
> #2 Ardfinnan - Shell Guide ["Ed Madden" <]
> #3 research at THU ["maebow" <>]
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> Subject: Shell Guide to Ireland - Introduction
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:24:49 -0800
> From: "Ed Madden" <>
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> Hi Tippers!
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> I have scanned the 20 "principle centers" that are in Tipperary County. Many pages have photos of the places mentioned, unfortunately these are not included. Check for the book at a library, there is so much more to it than what you will see in these emails. It is absolutely delightful!
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> I'll send them one email at a time and start with an Introduction to the book, extracted from the Preface. The towns are; Ardfinnan, Ballyporeen, Borrisokane, Borrisoleigh (for you Heidi!), Chair, Carrick-On-Suir, Cashel, Clogheen, Clonmel, Fethard, Golden, Lorrha, Nenagh, Newport, Rear Cross, Roscrea, Templemore, Thurlas, Tipperary and Toomyvara.
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> Next week I'll be out of town on business, so I'll get these all out by Sunday nite. Apologize in advance to anyone not interested by overloading your in box! I'll make the subject line "the town name - Shell Guide".
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> I recommend getting the Discovery Series Ordnance Survey map of your area of interest. Their scale is 1:50000, they came out in 1999 so they are extremely current and do show many of the "ancient sites" referred to.
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> The Shell Guide to Ireland, by Lord Killanain and Michael V. Duignan, Ebury Press, London. Was first published in 1962 and the second edition was revised in 1969. It pays particular attention to antiquities and to things of historic, artistic, archaeological and literary interest. Under the principle centers, usually towns and villages listed is a description of noteworthy features of the place itself, but also references to places (usually townlands) nearby. Mileage ("m.") and compass-bearing are also indicated. Spelling of placenames is done using the Ordnance Surveys. Spelling of personal names in O do not include the apostrophe e.g. O Neill, not O'Neill. The Irish form of mark of length is included (NOTE- the scanner would not accept those, so they are absent in this transcription - sorry.) The term "Nat. Mon" indicates a National Monument or Ancient Monument.
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> Enjoy!
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> Ed Madden, Silver Lake, WA
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> Subject: Ardfinnan - Shell Guide
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:27:07 -0800
> From: "Ed Madden" <>
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> ARDFINNAN, Co. Tipperary, is a wool-manufacturing and market village where the Clonmel (10 m.)-Mitchelstown (17 m.) road crosses the Suir. The Suir upriver to Cahir (following the W. bank) and down-river to Clonmel (following the E. bank) is noted for its scenery. The name of the village commemorates St Fionan Lobhar, who founded a monastery here in the 7th cent. (the Protestant church stands on the site). On a precipitous rock commanding the river-ford are remains of a strong castle wrecked by the Cromwellians. Prince John of England built a castle here in 1185, but the oldest part of the extant castle is a fragment of a late 13th cent. round keep. 2 m. NW., in Rochestown, are the ruins of a medieval church. The sheila-na-gig in the E. gable was the first of these curious carvings to be published and has given its name to the entire series. 1 1/4 m. SW., in Monroe West, are the scant remains of Lady's Abbey, a Carmelite friary. The church was a l4th/15th cent. building wi!
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> later S. transept. 2 m. S., in Raheen, are the ruins of Ballybacon 13th cent. church. There is a medieval carved font here. 5 m. SE., near the mouth of the lovely Nier valley, are remains of New Castle and its manorial church. 1 m. NE. of the village is a remnant of Molough "Abbey": remains of the church and traces of the conventual buildings. A nunnery dedicated to St Brigid was founded here in the 6th cent. by the daughters of Cinaed, King of the Deise, whose seat was at Crohan to the SW. of New Castle; in the 14th cent. it was revived by the Butlers of Cahir. 3 1/2 m. SE. of New Castle are the ruins of the Prendergast castle of Curraghcloney. 3 m. E. of New Castle, in Tooracurragh, Co. Waterford, is a prostrate pillarstone with inscribed cross.
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> The Shell Guide to Ireland, by Lord Killanain and Michael V. Duignan, Ebury Press, London.
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> Subject: research at THU
> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:12:53 +1100
> From: "maebow" <>
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> I used the research facility at the new THU on their first day of
> opening in May 2001. whilst I was very impressed with the friendliness,
> the information I was given using what I knew of my ancestors has since
> proven to be the wrong family, ie, I now know my people came from the
> parish of Thurles and not Upperchurch, but then with names like Mary
> Maher married to James Dwyer and a son called John it was difficult. I
> found it rather expensive for Australian dollars. It was suggested that
> the parish priests could have helped further but we did not have the
> time to do that.
> Mae
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Researching PATRICK MOLOUGHNEY a memeber of the Royal irish
Constabulary married to Margaret Tinney in Donegal 22nd July 1862
Hullo from New Zealand

Wwe visited the Tipperary Heritage unit in early August and submitted a
research form, yes they were very friendly, but haven't hear a word
since despite having sent them an email just trecently enquiring as to
the progress of the search.


Judith Knoche

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