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From: Geralyn Barry <>
Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] LEADWILL - BENNET - HUNT - MAGRATH - JONES
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:15:46 -0800
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A brief story of the murder is told here:

p. 61 That Damn'd Thing Called Honour: Duelling in Ireland, 1570-1860, by James Kelly

http://books.google.com/books?id=EyUZo--0cdwC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=%22Lieutenant+John+Hume%22+roscrea&source=bl&ots=aEgsOc1yVk&sig=5uj7uzo3BU65ZEjSxFJVNpJdWog&hl=en&ei=GW_tTNjpKIL4sAPb2cmeBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Lieutenant%20John%20Hume%22%20roscrea&f=false <http://books.google.com/books?id=EyUZo--0cdwC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=%22Lieutenant+John+Hume%22+roscrea&source=bl&ots=aEgsOc1yVk&sig=5uj7uzo3BU65ZEjSxFJVNpJdWog&hl=en&ei=GW_tTNjpKIL4sAPb2cmeBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Lieutenant%20John%20Hume%22%20roscrea&f=false>;

See also footnotes 75-77 on p. 88 [search on Hume to get to these notes].

The Lidwell family held the land where some members of my Keyes family lived in the Dromard area near Templemore.

Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon

On 11/24/2010 9:59 AM, Arthur Carden wrote:
> I was intrigued by the mention of Carden Bennet in the item below.
>
> In Vol 37 of the papers (to be found in Thurles library) of Father Walter G.
> Skehan (1905 - 1971) there is a note: 1738. Lieut. John Hume murdered at
> Roscrea by George, John and Thomas Lidwell and Carden Bennett. £500 reward
> for their arrest. I think Father Skehan's spelling is more reliable.
> Carden and Thomas Bennett were grandsons of the original John Carden of
> Templemore and Thomas Lidwill a well known local landlord (probably a
> magistrate).
>
> It seems extraordinary that these well-known members of the ascendancy
> should have murdered of an army offuicer. Does ayone have anything toi add?
>
> Very many thanks for posting the item. I very much enjoy all your posts.
>
> Arthur Carden of Horsham, England.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "G Young"<>
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> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:06 PM
> Subject: [COTIPPERARY] LEADWILL - BENNET - HUNT - MAGRATH - JONES
>
>> 23 February 1738 - Virginia Gazette
>>
>> Dublin, Nov 14. On the third instant, a Proclamation was published by
>> their Excellencies the Lords Justices and Privy Council of this
>> Kingdom, for apprehending the following persons concerned in the
>> murder of Lieutenant John Hume, at Rosscrea, in the County of
>> Tipperary, the 28th of Sept last, viz. George Leadwill, John
>> Leadwill, Thomas Leadwill, Carden Bennet, and Thomas Bennet, all of,
>> or about Templemore, in the said County, and Bryan Hunt of Rosscrea
>> aforesaid, offering a reword of 100 l. for the first person that shall
>> be apprehended and convicted in 30 days after the date of the
>> Proclamation, and 50 l. for each of the other.

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