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From: JAMES BARRETT <>
Subject: Re: [DMU] odd distance terminology - Another View
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:34:40 -0700 (PDT)

See http://users.rcn.com/deeds/survey.htm
"

Out - An 'out' was ten chains. When counting out long lines, the chain carriers would put a stake at the end of a chain, move the chain and put a stake at the end, and so on until they ran "out" of ten stakes. "
Taking this a step farther, could "pin" and "stake" be the same? Placing a stake or pin at the end of a chain. Thus 5 outs and 5 pins would be (5 X 10) + 5 = 55 chains.

This is just a guess on my part!

Jim Barrett
Bedford, TX where we used "veras".

Lee Hoffman <> wrote:
William B Clark wrote:
>I'm working in Wilkes/Elbert Co. GA. I have a 300ac. square measured in
>chains, 55c on a side. Two adjoining tracts are sold out of it, 126 ac &
>130ac., which share some of the same corners. Unfortunately not all the
>directions have a distance, and there is meander, probably a common one.
>Some of the legs that do list a direction and a distance read something
>like a "cut" or "out" and "pins".
>
>For example: "...beginning at a pine then south twenty chains to a
>chesnut [sic] then north seventy east five outs and five pins to a
>pine..."
>
> It could be five "ought" and 5 "pins" I suppose, but has anyone run
>into this before? Perhaps something peculiar to a particular immigrant
>group?

I believe that an "out" is the same as one chain. This is shortened
from the statement that he went "out five chains" to he went "five
outs". I think a "pin" is the same as a "link" meaning the length on
was slightly less than eight inches.

Hope this helps -

Lee Hoffman/KY
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