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From: Symonds <>
Subject: Re: [DMU] Number of entries in a deed?
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:46:14 -0600
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On the county map, the branch (west of present Carlton Creek) that winds
toward Vernon Hill is clearly marked Birch Creek, and the "southern"part
of the fork which winds toward the Pittsylvania border is also clearly
marked Birch Creek. I had guessed that the first large stream (unnamed
on County map) west of the emptying into the Dan River would have been
the First Fork. It also runs northward toward Vernon Hill. This is the
one now known as Carlton Creek.
Is there a map naming protocol by which the name "first fork" would have
been assigned at the first tributary past the mouth? Or does it start at
the origin point where the stream flows down to the larger collection
point. I am somewhat mystified.
If you wish, I will be happy to send you a jpeg of the section of the
county map which may clarify the above first paragraph. Surprisingly, I
failed to find the Medway River in the handbook "Virginia Geographic and
Cultural Names" although I had seen mention of it in documents before.
Many thanks as always.
Steve Broyles wrote:
> A quick check of our patent files shows a couple of patents on the 2nd fork
> of Birch/Burch Creek (James Spradlen/Spradling, 1765 and 1772). That fork
> is now known as Carlton Creek. The first fork of Birch/Burch is probably
> the major unnamed fork that heads north for about 5 miles and makes its way
> towards Vernon Hill. As you say, there are numerous unnamed little branches
> but these two forks are more significant in size. Birch/Burch Creek was
> originally called the Medway River, by the way.
> Steve Broyles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Symonds" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [DMU] Number of entries in a deed?
>> Happy New Year to Lee and Steve and thank you for the suggestions
>> regarding corner notations and call limit. Happily I had proceeded on to
>> enter the calls in the same way you have suggested. There were almost 80
>> calls altogether, but a very good plat was the result - sometimes
>> difficult to obtain during certain times and in certain areas of Halifax
>> County Virginia.
>> My immediate problem is the location of the Second Fork of the Birch
>> Creek in the western part of the county. There is another Birch Creek of
>> in the north eastern part. There are differences among the official
>> county map, the GNIS map, the DeLorme map, and the Topo map, and I am
>> unsure about the priority of authority which should be given to the
>> varying presentations. As it stands, I think I favor the County map
>> although too many streams are unnamed.
>> At first, I reasoned that the meaning of a "fork" required that the two
>> divisions carry the same name. However, I have since abandoned that
>> position although the county map does show a definite "fork in Birch
>> Creek, with both so labeled. I am just not sure that it is the "Second
>> fork" because a number of unnamed tributaries empty into the Creek
>> between that point and its conjunction with the Dan River.
>> Steve Broyles wrote:
>>> Marilyn, it's best to put empty Pt on the meander lines, e.g.
>>> Pt oak on the bank of the creek
>>> Lm N12E; 8p; up the creek
>>> Lm N27E; 18p;
>>> Lm N32E: 6p;
>>> Pt walnut on the bank
>>> The program will then properly display the corner notations if you use
>>> Display menu commands. It will plat properly without the Pt but will not
>>> display the corner text correctly.
>>> The "up" or "down" direction is an important clue for placing the
>>> I think I've only encountered one instance where the direction was given
>>> wrong, and even then I'm not sure.
>>> Steve Broyles
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Symonds" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:45 AM
>>> Subject: [DMU] Number of entries in a deed?
>>>> Is there a program limit to the total number of Pt's, Ln's, and Lm's one
>>>> can enter in a deed? And an allied question has arisen in connection
>>>> with a deed with two water boundaries marked by a succession of calls
>>>> without intervening points. Are these best entered as lines or meanders
>>>> with an unnamed, generic "point" entered to separate them? Thank you for
>>>> any guidance you may be able to give.
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