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From: Dorothy Coleman <>
Subject: Re: wordsTranslate
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:03:30 -0400


'enkekasse' and 'Præsteenkekasse'. so Pat what do they mean...who is Mogens?

"Patrick M. Jacobsen" wrote:

> I guess we add 's' for plural in English because the 'r' was already in
> use ;-)
>
> So what is 'hartkorn' in English? Mogens kindly helped me to understand
> the meaning of both 'enkekasse' and 'Præsteenkekasse'. But I find that
> understanding these 'compound' words is really tricky. I was just
> looking at 'kasserolle', 'kasse' + 'rolle' and wondering how that came
> to be a saucepan...
>
> Thanks for any help...
>
> Pat
>
> "Rockne H. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> > Those ancestors of mine who are identified as gaardmænd on Fyn had farms
> > taxed at about 6 or7 tønder hartkorn. The largest in the list of about 100
> > holdings of the Løgismose og Flenstoffte Manor was 12 tønder 6 skæpper 3
> > fjerdingkar and 2 album hartkorn. So a farm of 31 tønder hartkorn was
> > magnificent!
> >
> > Tønder is not in your dictionary, Pat, because it is the plural of tønde.
> >
> > Rock
> >
> > >Thanks Pat and Rock
> > >My guess was cows?? "The farm had 31 tønder hartkorn" is what Lars had in
> > >one of
> > >his descriptions of the farm.. I thought ok I will look it up later but
> > >my Danish
> > >English
> > >dictionary would not let me in on the secret !
> > >So, Rock if it had 31 tønder hartkorn ??
> > >Thanks for your help guys...I liked the dried corn guess.
> > >Dorothy
> > >
> > >"Patrick M. Jacobsen" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I know that wasn't very helpful, but I just couldn't resist! My brand
> > >> new English-Danish and Danish-English, 600 page dictionary tells me that
> > >> 'tønde' is a barrel or drum. Of course 'tønder' is not in my
> > >> dictionary. Nor is 'hartkorn'. But then using Rock's rule of thumb
> > >> which says that Danish words sound pretty much the same as English
> > >> (since that's where much of the English comes from anyway), 'hartkorn'
> > >> just sounds like 'hard corn', thus 'dried corn'.
> > >>
> > >> Hope this clears up any confusion caused by my previous outburst :o)
> > >>
> > >> It's pretty late here in Maryland which means it's twilight at the
> > >> Cannon Club...
> > >>
> > >> Pat
> > >>
> > >> "Patrick M. Jacobsen" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Personally, I kinda like 'a barrel of dried corn' - at least that's what
> > >> > it looks like to me ;-)
> > >> >
> > >> > Pat
> > >> >
> > >> > "Rockne H. Johnson" wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It is a unit which tells the tax collector how much of the produce
> > >>of the
> > >> > > land to take from the farmer. It is dependant on both the area and the
> > >> > > productivity of the land. The others may prefer another definition.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Rock
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >Lars Rock etal.
> > >> > > >what is tønder hartkorn ?? I even used the Alt 0248 and made the
> > >>special ø
> > >> > > >in using the Danish to English dictionary but didn't work.
> > >> > > >Thanks
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
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