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From: "Steen E Mortensen" <>
Subject: Re: [DK] Danish Money - and a way to evaluate its value
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:32:31 -0600
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From: "Ann Collins" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: [DK] Danish Money


> My great grandfather left Denmark to come to the U.S. via Canada in 1871.
His Passenger Contract states that he paid the sum of Four Hundred
Twenty-one Bigsdale, 72 Skilling danish Rigsmoney. Can anyone tell me how
much this would have been in American money. Thanks
>
> Ann Collins

Hej Ann and others interested in this question. I have seen Rock write so
many times,
go to the source!, so I went to the Danish Genealogy newsgroup and was given
a link
to the Danish Mint. I wrote them and here is the original ansver and my
translation for
you:

Kære spørger!
<Dear writer! (actually: You who ask the question)>

Tak for roserne! Jeg lod dit spm gå videre til Jørgen Sømod, som ved mere
end mig om de fleste møntforhold. Her er hans svar:
<Thanks for the roses! (They have a very nice home page, in Danish!
Here is an entry in the Rigsdaler:
http://www.gladsaxegymnasium.dk/2/rigsdale.htm )
I let your question go to Jørgen Sømod, who knows more than I about most
coin issues. Here is his answer:

"Spørgsmålet er langt vanskeligere at besvare, end man umiddelbart skulle
tro, idet en lang række faktorer spiller ind. Menneskets krav og især
muligheder til tilværelsen.
<The question is a lot more difficult to answer, than one would immediately
believe, since a large number of factors come into play. Peoples needs and
especially possibilities in life.

Vi prøver. 1885 var en årsløn for en arbejder i København 800 - 1000 kr.
<We shall try. In 1885 the yearly salary for a worker in Copenhagen was
Kr.800-1000.

1850 fik en dygtig skomagersvend i Roskilde 7 rigsbankdaler om ugen.
<In 1850 a good shoemaker jouneyman in Roskilde would get 7 Rigsbankdaler pr
week.

Hvis man antager, at priserne fra 1820 til 1836 stiger med 30%, kan man
videre regne. at fra 1835 til 1850 stiger priserne rundt regnet med 50 %
fra 1850 til 1870 stiger priserne yderligere med 50 %.
<If we assume, that the cost of living increased 30% from 1820 to 1836, one
can further assume that they rose 50% from 1835 to 1850 counting round
numbers. From 1850 to 1870 a further increase of 50%.

Dette er ikke en videnskabelig beregning, men taget ud fra enkelte løse
oplysninger. Så kan vi prøve at regne baglæns og sige
1870 10 rigsdaler er en ugeløn
1850 10 rigsbankdaler er 10 daglønninger.
1820 10 rigsbankdaler 3 ugers løn
for en arbejder i København, som er på egen kost og logis.
<This is not a scientific accounting, but taken from the single pieces of
information. Now we can try and calculate backwards and say that:
1870 10 Rigsdaler is a weeks salary
1850 10 rigsbanksdaler is 10 days salary.
1820 10 rigsbanksdaler is 3 weeks salary.

Jeg fandt lige en fin en: Sjoverlønnen på Orlogsværftet var
1815 32 ß pr. dag
1852 40 ß pr. dag
1869 56 ß pr. dag.
De årstal passer jo meget godt ind i spørgsmålet, men sjoverne var altså
også de absolut lavest lønnede. De levede på sultegrænsen."
< I just found a good one: The Sjover salary at the Navy wharf was
1815 32 Skilling pr day
1852 40 Skilling pr day
1869 56 Skilling pr day
Those years fit quite well into the question, but the Sjover was also the
absolutely lowest paid. They lived bordering starvation. (Sjover: day worker
for loading/unloading the vessels. On the ship: a loose dangling end of rope
with absolutely no known function! (;-D)

Håber det hjælper?!
<Hope this helps

Niels Jørgen Jensen, Dansk Mønt <The Danish Mint.

And so do I, forward with the calculator!
med venlig hilsen
Steen Erik





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