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From: "Kevin Walker" <>
Subject: Re: [DK] Re: Search for Nils and Yensina Olsen
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 23:30:54 +0100
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Hi Judy

One reason I think this is the right Nils is because the dates and location
are a near-perfect match.

Nils was illiterate. He signed all of his documents with a X. He would have
said something to an immigration or government official, which got
translated as Farlip. Farlov is very close. Nils was given NZ naturalisation
on 27 Aug 1896, aged 56 years, in Sweden. And a birth date of 9 Jul 1840 is
a good match. I am cautiously optimistic. I'd be less so if there was
another similar match, but there isn't.

But I agree with you that the facts need further verification. On Monday I
will order his death certificate in NZ, and see if it tells us anything new.
Perhaps someone in Sweden could tell me how to go about obtaining or
checking original birth records in these parishes. Not sure this is enough,
as it would only verify the EmiBas transcriptions and not prove him to be my
ancestor.

In the meantime I'll try to find the Northern Queensland connections. See if
anyone in Bowen has knowledge past of the family.

Regards
Kevin


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DK] Re: Search for Nils and Yensina Olsen


> Hi Kevin,
>
> The Emibas cd is a transcription and not primary information. It was also
> possible for a priest to write the wrong location at some point, and then
> the
> information was often wrong from that point onward.
>
> If I recall correctly, you had a location of "Farlip" from Australian
> records, which we (on the Sweden list) thought might be Färlöv; old
> spelling Färlöf.
> A person with the approximate birthdate and name left Sweden to go to
> Denmark,
> and that person was born in Färlov parish, according to the Emibas cd.
>
> Bo (a Swede) checked out that person and reported that he had checked the
> husförhörslängd, a Swedish parish record similar in format to a census but
> much
> more detailed) for Färlöv parish and he found a different birthplace for
> the
> person found on Emibas. He found the foster family for your person.
> Although
> they were living in Färlöv parish, it seems that your person was not born
> there.
> (Bo wrote: "- foster son Nils Olsson, born 9 July 1840 Reslöf
> (Reslöv,Malmöhus?),to Denmark 1855." I have often seen errors in this type
> of parish record.
> It is not as reliable as the actual birth record, but no record is totally
> reliable. The birth record, however, being closer to the time of the
> actual event,
> is the one we usually consider as being more likely to be correct.)
>
>
> It is necessary to check in the birth records of both parishes to see
> which
> birthplace is correct. :-) Perhaps the writing was difficult to read. We
> can't
> depend on information found by others or upon cds or transcribed
> databases. We
> need to check the original sources, and in this case it would be the
> parish
> birth record.
>
> I'm not 100% convinced that the person I found on the Emibas cd is yours.
> You
> only knew that he was born in "Farlip" about 1839-1840. The person found
> on
> Emibas "might" be yours but I don't consider "might be" to be proof. I do
> think
> he is someone to check out. I would feel somewhat more confident if you
> had
> an actual birthdate to compare with that person found on Emibas. The name
> Nils
> Olsson is a VERY common Swedish name and we haven't yet found him linked
> with
> his wife and child. I would be cautiously hopeful but not confident enough
> to
> add him to my records as a sure thing.
>
> Reslöv is a parish in Malmöhus län = county, Sweden. Färlöv is a different
> parish which is in Kristianstad län = county, Sweden. Winnö (modern
> spelling
> Vinnö) is a gård = farm in Färlöv parish, according to the Rosenberg cd,
> which
> has Swedish place names from the 1880s.
>
> Kristianstad and Malmöhus have been merged in recent years to form Skåne
> län
> (county). They are also part of Skåne landskap (province). These locations
> are
> in the south of Sweden, closer to Denmark than many parts of Sweden. Look
> at
> this page with maps of Swedish län, old and modern.
>
> http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/swe_counties_map_eng.htm
>
>
> Our ancestors don't always make it easy for us, unfortunately. We usually
> have to look for clues in many locations.
>
> Judy
> Orland Park, Illinois
> Sent: 4:23 P.M. U.S. Central Time, May 6
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/6/2006 4:19:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
> It would be wise for me to get this absolutely straight. If Färlöv is the
> parish he was born in, is Reslöv the town? Is Vinnö also a town? I
> understand Kristianstad län is the original county, but now its a part of
> Skåne.
>
>
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