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Subject: Illinois census page with Fleetwood,Tyndal,Deane from Delaware. Recognize them?
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 04:46:05 EDT


I am looking for the ancestors of JERMIAH M. FLEETWOOD (b. in December
between 1846 and 1850).

I have been unable, so far, to find his parents. It is likely, given the
names produced by some relatives that his father was named either WILLIAM or
CURTIS, but, so far, . . . .

Since I've not been able with certainty to tie JERMIAH M. FLEETWOOD to any
FLEETWOOD families in Delaware census reports, I recently began to search for
any FLEETWOODs born in DE, but living in other states.

I have come across an interesting census page in the 1850 census in TOWNSHIP
7 S R 5 W, RANDOLPH CO., ILLINOIS, page 59. (In ancestry.com image 6 of 13).
This page suggests some family relationships among the families on the
page. I am hoping that someone will recognize the families and have some ideas
about the nature of their relationships.

Here is what I found:

Dwelling 861; family 866
Mansker family -- all born in IL. Not evidently connected to Delaware
families on page.

Dwelling 862; family 867
Mansker family -- all born in IL. Not evidently connected to Delaware
families on page.

Dwelling 863; family 868
JOHN DEANE, age 37 or 57, b. DE

possible second wife; possible daughter:
JUNE DEANE, age 24, b. Mo/Me/Md?
probable children of JOHN DEANE, but oldest not likely to be daughter of
JUNE if JUNE is JOHN's wife:
JONSTONE (writing unclear) DEAN, age 12, b. IL. (listed as female)
VIENNA DEANE, age 6, b. IL.
MARY E. DEANE, age 3, b. IL.

Dwelling 864; family 869
Kune family, born in TN and IL. Not evidently connected to Delaware
families on page.


Dwelling 865; family 870
JONSTONE KEINE/HEINE, age 21, TN (listed as male).

possible brother?: FRANCIS M. KEINE/HEINE, age 18, b. TN.
Unknown relationships:
SARAH, age 55, born in SC.
JUDITH, age 16, born in TN.
DANIEL, age 15, born in TN.
GEORGE W., age 13, born in TN.
Note that the first name of the person in this list seems to be the
first name of a child listed in the DEANE family.
Note that the last name here could be the first name of the person
in the wife's position in GEORGE FLEETWOOD's family below.


Dwelling 866; family 871
GEORGE FLEETWOOD, age 32, b. DE, farmer
probable wife: HEINE/HENNE FLEETWOOD, age 34, b. DE (listed as female)
child of unknown relationship: GEORGE TYNDALL, age 9, b. IL. (see
TYNDALL below)

Dwelling 867; family 872
JAMES H. HINDMAN, age 30, born in IL (note Hindman is family name in DE, MD,
and PA).
probable wife: SARAH HINDMAN, age 22, born in DE.
probable child: ALEXANDER HINDMAN, age 2, born in IL.

Dwelling 868; family 873
ISAAC TYNDALL, age 45, b. DE
probable children of ISAAC:
JOHN, age 18, b. DE.
CAROLINE, age 15, b. IN.
MILES, age 13, b. IL.
CHARLES, age 7, b. IL.
JAMES, age 7, b. IL.
unknown relationship: MILLE DEANE, age 80, b. SC.
unknown relationship: RHODA DEANE, age 17, b. IL.

Can anyone put together FLEETWOOD, DEANE, TYNDALL, HINDMAN, and HEINE/KEINE
families?


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BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON JERMIAH M. FLEETWOOD's wives & children which
precipitated my search:

With his first wife (and maybe only legal wife), SUSAN CATHARINE SCOTT (b.
Feb. 11, 1851-1865), JERMIAH M. FLEETWOOD had the following children:

1. WILLIAM H. FLEETWOOD, b. 1871-73, DE; married JANIE (nee unknown).
2. GEORGE A. FLEETWOOD, b. 1876-77, DE.
3. JAMES FLEETWOOD, b. Aug. 1879, MD.
4. IDA MAY FLEETWOOD, b. 9-5-1880, DE; d. May 29, 1943, Milford, DE; bur.
Milford, DE; married GEORGE JOSEPH STILL.
5. MINNIE FLEETWOOD, b. 4-17-1884, DE; d. 7-21-1957, Milford, DE; bur.
Milford, DE; married HARRY LEE HILL.
6. ELIZABETH FLEETWOOD, b. 1889, DE; d. 1911; bur. Milford, DE.
7. HARRY BENJAMIN "MIKE" FLEETWOOD, b. 5-23-1891, Milford, DE; d. 1-17-1968;
bur. Blades, Sussex Co., DE; married ORA PAGE ELLIOTT.

With his second wife/significant other, ZABRA/SABRA NORA (nee unknown)
OUTTEN, b. March 1863, DE, widow of THOMAS OUTTEN/OUTEN (b. 1856-57, DE; d. 1894),
JERMIAH FLEETWOOD had the following children:
8. RAYMOND WASHINGTON FLEETWOOD (b. 7-12-1898, Sussex Co., DE; d. April
1987, DE)
9. MARY FLEETWOOD (b. April 1900, MD)
They lived in Dorchester, MD, and then in New Castle Co., DE, as per
census data. They may have lived together in DE prior to going to MD.

Zabra Nora's children by her husband THOMAS OUTTEN were:
1. NANCY C. OUTTEN/OUTEN (b. Dec 1879-Jan 1880, DE).
2. MARTHA E. OUTTEN/OUTEN (b. Aug. 1881, DE), married (unknown) WATSON.
3. GEORGEANNA OUTTEN/OUTEN (b. April 1886, DE).
4. WILHELMINA OUTTEN/OUTEN (b. May 1889, DE).

In census reports showing Nora and Jermiah living with Jermiah's second
family, Nora's daughters by her marriage to Thomas Outten are listed as Jermiah's
daughters, and they are listed married for enough years for Nora to have
born the children to Jermiah instead of to Thomas. Interesting pondering for
the family!

I would be interested to hear from anyone with thoughts about the
connections of the families in IL to each other and to DE or eastern shore MD families.
And, of course, I would very much like to hear from anyone who recognizes
the FLEETWOOD and OUTTEN/OUTEN families that are known connections to me and
my family.

Karen Carter
Austin, TX


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