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From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <>
Subject: [D-Col] Re: Cornelis VOS and Andriese DE VOS - Albany
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:34:37 -0500
In-Reply-To: <002801c2a86d$e9773300$a8e296d1@clarityconnect.com>


On 20 Dec 2002 at 16:22, Ed/Linda Roorda wrote:

> Peter - ok, that answers that! - but what other data is there to
> document Cornelis Vos as Andries DeVos's son-in-law? The
> document in Pearson's Albany Records book was the only
> indication I've seen that Cornelis was Andries' son-in-law.
> I've also been told that Andries may have married a Coeymans -
> but I don't know who the lovely lady might have been. Pearson
> notes Cornelis' wife was Dirckie Pieterse Coeymans who died in
> 1665, and Cornelis returned to Holland soon after her death.


Pearson states that Cornelis De Vos/Vos/Vosje aka Van
Schoenderwoert, worked for the West India Company in
Beverwyck, and was married to Dirckie Pieterse Coeymans, sister
of Barent Pieterse Coeymans. Pearson adds that Dirckie died in
1665 and her estate was sold to pay her funeral expenses, after
which Cornelis returned to Holland
Pearson also shows under COEYMANS: Dirkje d/o Pieter, and wife
of Cornelis Vos, deceased 1665.

Under DE VOS, Pearson states that Andries De Vos, wife's name
unknown, had a daughter who m Barent Pieterse Coeymans;
Cornelia who m. Christoffel Davidts and Catalyntie who had 3
husbands --- Arent Andriessen Bradt; Barent Janse VAn Ditmars
and Claas Janse Van Boekhoven. Pearson does not mention a
daughter of Andries De Vos marrying Cornelis Vos.

(This is a secondary source)


For a primary source see Early Records of the City and County
of Albany and Colony of Rensselaerswyck translated by Jonathan
Pearson. Vol. 1 1656-1675:

p. 71. 12/22 March 1665 in Albany. "We the undersigned,
administrators and guardians of the estate of Dirkje Pieterse,
deceased, late wife of Cornelis Vos...."

Note that Dirkje is not recorded with a surname, only her
patronymic of Pieterse. It is in the footnote that Pearson
assigns the name Coeymans with a question mark and further
states: "Dirkje Pieterse Coeymans ? was probably sister of
Barent Pieterse Coyemans, alias Molenaer (Miller)"

The footnote of course, is secondary, not primary --- and is
only Pearson's conjecture.

p. 68 9 Jan. 1665 A lengthy document which I won't quote here,
then follows "Conditions: The guardians over the estate left
by Dirckjen Pieterse, deceased, wife of Cornelis Vos..." This
document goes on to discuss the sale of her goods at public
auction.

Among the list of purchases and purchasers, are the names of
Luycas Pieterse, Barent Pieterse and Anderies De Vos -- but of
course they are only one small group in the large group who
bought items. It does not mean they are related.

There is no surname attached to Dirkje in this record either.

In the 4 volume set of Court Records, there are dozens of
entries for Coeymans and for Vos/de Vos. It would be advisable
for you to obtain these books and check the entries to see if
there is any mention of a Dirkje as a d/o Pieter Coeymans, and
if there is any reference to a surname for Cornelis Vos' first
wife.

In this same Volume, p 416 gives the reference to Cornelis Vos
being the son in law of Andries de Vos:

18/28 April 1667 Albany. "We the undersigned, commissaries of
Albany, etc testify and declare that on the date underwritttne,

before us came and appeared Andries de Vos, father in law of
Cornelis Vos..."

It is in this document that Cornelis' departure for Holland is
mentioned: "...also the grantor acknowledges that Cornelis Vos,

before his departure for Holland...."

We know therefore that Cornelis Vos married prior to 9 Jan.
1665 ---Dirkje Pieterse (surname unknown). If we assume that
"father in law" is the correct translation and meaning for
Andries' relationship to Cornelis, then we also know that
Cornelis Vos married secondly between 9 Jan 1665 and 18/28
April 1667, a daughter of Andries De Vos. I would personally
want more proof of this before accepting it. For instance, I
wonder if "father in law" really meant "step father"?

Lorine
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