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From: "Protzman, RL (Robert)" <>
Subject: Re: Re: [D-Col] Adriaen Gerrits Papendorp (Popendorf)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:27:34 -0500


Frans and Peter,

The information that I have, although not well documented, says that Willem
BANCKER was either the brother, or son of Gerrit BANCKER, the American
immigrant. That would make him either the brother or Uncle of Evert
BANCKER. See below:

1. Gerrit BANCKER, b. ca. 1620, Holland (Wessem, Limburg); d. Nov 25, 1690
-May 27, 1691, Beverwyck/Albany; m. Apr 10, 1658, Beverwyck (now Albany),
NN, Elizabeth/Lysbet Dirkse Van Eps (b. ca. 1623, Schenectady, NN, d. Jul 3
(or 13), 1693, age 70, NYC (or Albany)), dau of Dirck van Eps and Maritie
Damen/Damiens. She may have been previously married (to a Van Ness ?). He
was a merchant and Indian Trader.

He came to New Netherlands in 1651, from Wessum (or Wessen, Wessem), in
Limburg Province, near Tongeren and Mastricht, in NE Belgium or SE
Netherlands. (or Amsterdam, his brother (some say son) William was a
merchant there, as late as 1700). He l. Beverwyck 1657. He came as a
merchant's clerk for Gerrit Jansz (Cuyper), at 20 guilders per year. [8054]
[Jansz had worked for the Verbrugge's and then for Dirck de Wolff after the
organization of de Wolff's Company. Cuyper was also married to de Wolff's
daughter, Geertruydt.]

Gerrit was a factor in New Netherland's for Dirck de Wolff for nearly 15
years (ca. 1651-1664). The de Wolff Company was one of the four major
trading companys in New Netrherlands, along with Verbrugge, van Rennselaer
and van Hoornbeeck Companies. For this he received a share in the company's
profits. He also received a farm and a house for his family on one of the
company's parcels on Manhattan Island. He was replaced by Harmen Vedder, as
factor, about 1664, when Dirck's son Abel, took charge of the company, about
the time of the Dutch surrender of New Amsterdam to the English in 1664.

Gerrit was on the New Amsterdam tax rolls, Oct 12, 1655 (free -fl. 10, item.
fl. 20). He went to Beverwyck in 1657, where he died. Members of the
Albany DRC, 1683. His lot in Albany was on Yonker (now State) St., the
third east on the south side from Pearl. He was one of the 15 original
proprietors of Schenectady with Arent Van Curler, in 1662. He owned farm
number 6 on the Bouwland and a village lot bounded by Washington, Union,
Church and State Sts. The grant for the parcel of 20 morgens is dated Jun
16, 1663. [1054] His widow became a trader after 1691, in NYC.

He had a house and lot in Esopus in 1664, where he may have l for a time.
He appears to have abandoned the house and it was rented out for taxes by
the Court. His will mentioned property in Albany, Schenectady, NY, England,
Holland or at Sea. Elizabeth went to Holland at the request of her mother
in 1668. When she died, she left her estate primarily to her son Evert
(right of primogeniture ?). It included property in Schenectady, Albany,
Catskill and NY, as well as a large amount of store goods, a share in a
brigantine, a large quantity of furs, wampum, silver plate, gold rings,
religious books and a negro boy named Toby. The inventory of her estate,
taken by her son, Evert, included a House in NY, between the house of
Anthony Farmer and Hendrick Jacobs and Thomas Roberts. A house lot by the
waterside. Gives a long list of household goods and goods at Albany, not
valued. He was one of the original 15 patentees of Schenectady, in 1662. He
received farm No. 6, June 16, 1664, (22 acres) confirmed by Gov Nichols, Apr
27, 1667, which was sold by his son, Evert to Isaac Swits, Jul 7, 1702, for
L 188 12 s.

? 11. William BANCKER, b. Feb 23, 1660/1; m. Isabelle Winterswijk,
of Amsterdam. He l in Amsterdam, 1700. [These children of William Bancker,
listed below, are found only in The Bancker Genealogy]. It is not known if
he or which of his descendants lived in America or returned here.

11x. Catharine BANCKER, b. Feb 5, 1693; m. Peter Vandermater

11x1. Peter VANDERMATER, b. Aug 10, 1711; m. Judith
Holthuyzer

11x2. Clasiena VANDERMATER, b. Feb 13, 1715; m.
Peter Jaggar

11x3. William VANDERMATER, b. Mar 2, 1717; dwi

11x4. Jacob VANDERMATER, b. Dec 17, 1723

11x5. Adriana Margareta VANDERMATER, b. Aug 18,
1726; m. P. Van
Den.

Only Son (to survive ?)

12. Evert/Everard BANCKER, b. Feb 24, 1663 (or Jan 24, 1664/5,
Albany, NY); d. Guilderland, Albany Co, NY, Mar 13, 1734 (w) - Jul 1734 (p),
(farm in Guilderland) Albany, bur Jul 10, 1734, Albany; m. Sep 12 (or 22 or
24 ?), 1686, Albany, NY, Elizabeth Abeel (b. Mar 23, 1671, Albany, NY; d.
Guilderland, NY, bur Mar 20, 1734) of New Albany, dau of Stoeffel Janse
Abeel and Neeltje Janse Croon. His house in Albany was on State St, next
east of his father's, fourth east of Pearl St. Of Rennselaerswyck Manor.
Merchant, in Albany, and Indian trader. 1692, Justice of the Peace. 1692,
he furnished the supplies for the Fusileers, in King William's War. 1695-6,
1707-9, Third Mayor of Albany. A Commissioner of Indian Affairs, 1696. Lived
in Albany almost his entire life. Home was on south side of Yonker (State)
Street, next east of his fathers.

On Jul 30, 1697, he with other Indian Commissioners and Dom. Godfrey
Dellius, pastor of the Albany Church, received from Gov Fletcher a grant of
land on the Mohawk River, 50 miles in length and 2 miles back on either side
of the river. For this they were to pay 1 beaver skin per year for seven
years and then 5 beaver skins per year, everafter. Because of the many land
grant abuses by Gov Fletcher, the Assembly, in 1699, annulled this grant
among others.

Representative in the Ninth Colonial Assembly, 1702-1704. Master of
the Colonial Court of Chancery, 1705. Alderman for the first ward of
Albany, 1707. He was again Mayor of Albany, 1707-9. In 1711, he was one of
the managers of the expedition against Canada in Queen Anne's War. In 1723
or 1726 he was Resident Commissioner among the Seneca Indians and in 1724,
or 1727, he was Commandant of Fort Orange, with the rank of Captain. He was
a Deacon of the DRC in 1693, and 1700. In 1703, he aided in the
construction of the Domine's house. He was made a freeman of NYC, on Jul 1,
1697, listed as a merchant [1892]. He was a Freeholder of Albany Co, 1720,
of Coloney Rensselaerswyck.

He inherited his father's Schenectady property and sold it to Isaac
Swits in 1702. He retired to his farm at Guilderland, where his son,
Johannes l with him. His estate went to his children, Christoffel, Willem,
Jannetje, Adrian, Gerardus and Johannes. (Witnesses to will, Antony
Bogardus, John de Peyster, Rutger Bleecker.) He retired to his farm in
Guilderland, where he died.

I have the connection through the CROON family, as stated by Peter:

1. Jan/Johannes CROON

1w. Neeltje Janse CROON, m. Stoffel Janse Abeel (b. ca. 1623,
Amsterdam; d.1678 (w) - Oct 14, 1681 (p)). He was a master carpenter,
Beverwyck, in 1653.

1w4. Elizabeth ABEEL, b. Mar 23, 1671; d. bur Mar 20, 1734;
m. Evert Bancker

1z. Jannetje Janse CROON, m. Adriaen Gerritse Papendorp, of Albany
(d. 1689 (w)). His will did not mention any children. [He was a
brother-in-law of Stoffel Janse Abeel and Cornelis Van der Poel.]

Note: The family relationships for each family are shown by the
individual's numbers, using the Modified Henry System.

Bob Protzmann


From: Peter R Christoph [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:54 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [D-Col] Adriaen Gerrits Papendorp (Popendorf)


Frans,

You have made an interesting discovery. Papendorp is one of the few
individuals for whom we have some papers. He was a merchant in Beverwyck and
one of the city's first aldermen. I don't know of any relationship between
Papendorp and Bancker. Perhaps Bancker was engaged in trade with the colony,
and considered a reliable person to be granted power-of-attorney. The only
possible family connection would be if Willem is somehow related to Evert
Bancker, who was mentioned in Papendorp's will and was married to Elisabeth
Croon, a niece of Papendorp's wife.

There are some 18 documents, correspondence of Papendorp and his wife
Jannetie Kroon relating to family affairs and business, in Dutch with
English translations; also legal papers and Kroon's will, 1693, at the
Albany Institute of History and Art, McKinney Library (125 Washington
Avenue, Albany, New York 12210). The translated material has been
published: A.J.F. van Laer, 'Some Early Dutch Manuscripts: Letters to
Adriaen Gerritsen Papendorp', Quarterly Journal of the New York State
Historical Association, v. 3, No. 4 (October 1922) 221-229.

Best wishes,
Peter


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