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From: "Frans Gouverneur" <>
Subject: Re: Re: [D-Col] Adriaen Gerrits Papendorp (Popendorf)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:04:43 +0200


Bob,
thanks, if I visit the Amsterdam Archive, I will try to find more.
Frans
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Datum: donderdag 10 april 2003 14:22
Onderwerp: Re: Re: [D-Col] Adriaen Gerrits Papendorp (Popendorf)


>
>Frans and Peter,
>
>The information that I have, although not well documented, says that Willem
>BANCKER was either the brother, or son of Gerrit BANCKER, the American
>immigrant. That would make him either the brother or Uncle of Evert
>BANCKER. See below:
>
>1. Gerrit BANCKER, b. ca. 1620, Holland (Wessem, Limburg); d. Nov 25, 1690
>-May 27, 1691, Beverwyck/Albany; m. Apr 10, 1658, Beverwyck (now Albany),
>NN, Elizabeth/Lysbet Dirkse Van Eps (b. ca. 1623, Schenectady, NN, d. Jul 3
>(or 13), 1693, age 70, NYC (or Albany)), dau of Dirck van Eps and Maritie
>Damen/Damiens. She may have been previously married (to a Van Ness ?). He
>was a merchant and Indian Trader.
>
>He came to New Netherlands in 1651, from Wessum (or Wessen, Wessem), in
>Limburg Province, near Tongeren and Mastricht, in NE Belgium or SE
>Netherlands. (or Amsterdam, his brother (some say son) William was a
>merchant there, as late as 1700). He l. Beverwyck 1657. He came as a
>merchant's clerk for Gerrit Jansz (Cuyper), at 20 guilders per year. [8054]
>[Jansz had worked for the Verbrugge's and then for Dirck de Wolff after the
>organization of de Wolff's Company. Cuyper was also married to de Wolff's
>daughter, Geertruydt.]
>
>Gerrit was a factor in New Netherland's for Dirck de Wolff for nearly 15
>years (ca. 1651-1664). The de Wolff Company was one of the four major
>trading companys in New Netrherlands, along with Verbrugge, van Rennselaer
>and van Hoornbeeck Companies. For this he received a share in the
company's
>profits. He also received a farm and a house for his family on one of the
>company's parcels on Manhattan Island. He was replaced by Harmen Vedder,
as
>factor, about 1664, when Dirck's son Abel, took charge of the company,
about
>the time of the Dutch surrender of New Amsterdam to the English in 1664.
>
>Gerrit was on the New Amsterdam tax rolls, Oct 12, 1655 (free -fl. 10,
item.
>fl. 20). He went to Beverwyck in 1657, where he died. Members of the
>Albany DRC, 1683. His lot in Albany was on Yonker (now State) St., the
>third east on the south side from Pearl. He was one of the 15 original
>proprietors of Schenectady with Arent Van Curler, in 1662. He owned farm
>number 6 on the Bouwland and a village lot bounded by Washington, Union,
>Church and State Sts. The grant for the parcel of 20 morgens is dated Jun
>16, 1663. [1054] His widow became a trader after 1691, in NYC.
>
>He had a house and lot in Esopus in 1664, where he may have l for a time.
>He appears to have abandoned the house and it was rented out for taxes by
>the Court. His will mentioned property in Albany, Schenectady, NY,
England,
>Holland or at Sea. Elizabeth went to Holland at the request of her mother
>in 1668. When she died, she left her estate primarily to her son Evert
>(right of primogeniture ?). It included property in Schenectady, Albany,
>Catskill and NY, as well as a large amount of store goods, a share in a
>brigantine, a large quantity of furs, wampum, silver plate, gold rings,
>religious books and a negro boy named Toby. The inventory of her estate,
>taken by her son, Evert, included a House in NY, between the house of
>Anthony Farmer and Hendrick Jacobs and Thomas Roberts. A house lot by the
>waterside. Gives a long list of household goods and goods at Albany, not
>valued. He was one of the original 15 patentees of Schenectady, in 1662.
He
>received farm No. 6, June 16, 1664, (22 acres) confirmed by Gov Nichols,
Apr
>27, 1667, which was sold by his son, Evert to Isaac Swits, Jul 7, 1702, for
>L 188 12 s.
>
> ? 11. William BANCKER, b. Feb 23, 1660/1; m. Isabelle Winterswijk,
>of Amsterdam. He l in Amsterdam, 1700. [These children of William
Bancker,
>listed below, are found only in The Bancker Genealogy]. It is not known if
>he or which of his descendants lived in America or returned here.
>
> 11x. Catharine BANCKER, b. Feb 5, 1693; m. Peter Vandermater
>
> 11x1. Peter VANDERMATER, b. Aug 10, 1711; m. Judith
>Holthuyzer
>
> 11x2. Clasiena VANDERMATER, b. Feb 13, 1715; m.
>Peter Jaggar
>
> 11x3. William VANDERMATER, b. Mar 2, 1717; dwi
>
> 11x4. Jacob VANDERMATER, b. Dec 17, 1723
>
> 11x5. Adriana Margareta VANDERMATER, b. Aug 18,
>1726; m. P. Van
> Den.
>
> Only Son (to survive ?)
>
> 12. Evert/Everard BANCKER, b. Feb 24, 1663 (or Jan 24, 1664/5,
>Albany, NY); d. Guilderland, Albany Co, NY, Mar 13, 1734 (w) - Jul 1734
(p),
>(farm in Guilderland) Albany, bur Jul 10, 1734, Albany; m. Sep 12 (or 22 or
>24 ?), 1686, Albany, NY, Elizabeth Abeel (b. Mar 23, 1671, Albany, NY; d.
>Guilderland, NY, bur Mar 20, 1734) of New Albany, dau of Stoeffel Janse
>Abeel and Neeltje Janse Croon. His house in Albany was on State St, next
>east of his father's, fourth east of Pearl St. Of Rennselaerswyck Manor.
>Merchant, in Albany, and Indian trader. 1692, Justice of the Peace. 1692,
>he furnished the supplies for the Fusileers, in King William's War.
1695-6,
>1707-9, Third Mayor of Albany. A Commissioner of Indian Affairs, 1696.
Lived
>in Albany almost his entire life. Home was on south side of Yonker (State)
>Street, next east of his fathers.
>
> On Jul 30, 1697, he with other Indian Commissioners and Dom. Godfrey
>Dellius, pastor of the Albany Church, received from Gov Fletcher a grant of
>land on the Mohawk River, 50 miles in length and 2 miles back on either
side
>of the river. For this they were to pay 1 beaver skin per year for seven
>years and then 5 beaver skins per year, everafter. Because of the many
land
>grant abuses by Gov Fletcher, the Assembly, in 1699, annulled this grant
>among others.
>
> Representative in the Ninth Colonial Assembly, 1702-1704. Master of
>the Colonial Court of Chancery, 1705. Alderman for the first ward of
>Albany, 1707. He was again Mayor of Albany, 1707-9. In 1711, he was one
of
>the managers of the expedition against Canada in Queen Anne's War. In 1723
>or 1726 he was Resident Commissioner among the Seneca Indians and in 1724,
>or 1727, he was Commandant of Fort Orange, with the rank of Captain. He
was
>a Deacon of the DRC in 1693, and 1700. In 1703, he aided in the
>construction of the Domine's house. He was made a freeman of NYC, on Jul
1,
>1697, listed as a merchant [1892]. He was a Freeholder of Albany Co, 1720,
>of Coloney Rensselaerswyck.
>
> He inherited his father's Schenectady property and sold it to Isaac
>Swits in 1702. He retired to his farm at Guilderland, where his son,
>Johannes l with him. His estate went to his children, Christoffel, Willem,
>Jannetje, Adrian, Gerardus and Johannes. (Witnesses to will, Antony
>Bogardus, John de Peyster, Rutger Bleecker.) He retired to his farm in
>Guilderland, where he died.
>
>I have the connection through the CROON family, as stated by Peter:
>
>1. Jan/Johannes CROON
>
> 1w. Neeltje Janse CROON, m. Stoffel Janse Abeel (b. ca. 1623,
>Amsterdam; d.1678 (w) - Oct 14, 1681 (p)). He was a master carpenter,
>Beverwyck, in 1653.
>
> 1w4. Elizabeth ABEEL, b. Mar 23, 1671; d. bur Mar 20, 1734;
>m. Evert Bancker
>
> 1z. Jannetje Janse CROON, m. Adriaen Gerritse Papendorp, of Albany
>(d. 1689 (w)). His will did not mention any children. [He was a
>brother-in-law of Stoffel Janse Abeel and Cornelis Van der Poel.]
>
>Note: The family relationships for each family are shown by the
>individual's numbers, using the Modified Henry System.
>
>Bob Protzmann
>
>
>From: Peter R Christoph [mailto:]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:54 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [D-Col] Adriaen Gerrits Papendorp (Popendorf)
>
>
>Frans,
>
>You have made an interesting discovery. Papendorp is one of the few
>individuals for whom we have some papers. He was a merchant in Beverwyck
and
>one of the city's first aldermen. I don't know of any relationship between
>Papendorp and Bancker. Perhaps Bancker was engaged in trade with the
colony,
>and considered a reliable person to be granted power-of-attorney. The only
>possible family connection would be if Willem is somehow related to Evert
>Bancker, who was mentioned in Papendorp's will and was married to Elisabeth
>Croon, a niece of Papendorp's wife.
>
>There are some 18 documents, correspondence of Papendorp and his wife
>Jannetie Kroon relating to family affairs and business, in Dutch with
>English translations; also legal papers and Kroon's will, 1693, at the
>Albany Institute of History and Art, McKinney Library (125 Washington
>Avenue, Albany, New York 12210). The translated material has been
>published: A.J.F. van Laer, 'Some Early Dutch Manuscripts: Letters to
>Adriaen Gerritsen Papendorp', Quarterly Journal of the New York State
>Historical Association, v. 3, No. 4 (October 1922) 221-229.
>
>Best wishes,
>Peter
>
>

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